Kevin the Soldier remarked
I tend to wonder if he is resigned to the viewpoint that history will reflect all of the great contributions he made and that he doesn’t have to sell shit anymore after election. Unfortunately, the Republican’s inability to sell how great the country is doing is going to cost them big time in the midterm elections. Truly though, do you think it would matter how well he marketed his accomplishments? All the sheep in this country will only listen to whatever drivel pours out of the talking heads on tv.
Christopher the Pyro pontificated
Well obviously communication is not one of his strong points, at least not on a mass level. He certainly doesn’t have Regan’s or Kennedy’s ability to communicated and excite the masses.. (even about bs). I don’t know about the midterms, I think when it is all said and done things will be pretty similar to where they are now, with Rep’s in control of both the house and senate. I have to agree with you tho, there is a large number of people who just do not look at an issue neuturally, any situation can be painted negatively or positively if enough effort is taken.
Christine the Lioness stated
Yeah, yeah, yeah… that’s all well and good about the economy and deficit and tax receipts. But I want to explain about the Toyota thing… not only was my brake light on (big thank you to Christopher for fixing that with some brake fluid), the car sporatically decides not to start at times and a friend suggested I should have it checked out because it might be my alternator. Also… the last time it was in, they found some leaks in a few O-rings and I told them not to fix it, so I figured with the brake light issue, the O-ring leaking problem, and the whole needing my car to start 100% of the time, it would probably end up being about $250 if I threw in that they could also do an oil change and then I could get a free rental because I really can’t go without my car for a day. So that’s the story… It had to do with logic and time management more than marketing… although I’ll admit, I am a sucker for really good marketing.
But Christopher talked me out of taking the car in until I really need to, and since there’s hopefully a chance I’ll be trading it in for something shiny and new in the near future, I heeded his advice. Now back to Christopher’s post which is essentially nothing more than a few strong strokes to President Bush’s dick… he didn’t mention social security, global warming, the potential financial aftermath of Katrina and all the other natural disasters and emergencies we’ve had, and a few other major concerns that Mr. Bush hasn’t addressed yet and probably won’t. So Chris is basically doing what he complains other people do… which is pick out the few things that support his point and ignoring the rest.
Kevin the Soldier added
Hang on now… Global Warming? Katrina? How is any of this Bush’s fault. Global warming is a crock, Katrina is unfortunate but what would you have him do that he isn’t doing? If I was the president I’d just give the people of New Orleans $25K and tell them to go find somewhere else to live. Why should we rebuild in a swamp that is 10-15 feet below sea level. I don’t think we should waste a bunch of money rebuilding a French mistake.
Christopher the Pyro scribbled
Well, Christine has a wonderful talent for blaming people for stuff they are not responsbile for.. Katrina, 9/11, Space Shuttle blowing up, Global warming.. it’s all part of Bush’s evil plans. I have to agree with you about global warming being a crack I watched a show on discover the other day about a mini ice age that happened 400 years ago.. it’s was almost the exact opposite of how things are heating up now.. just goes to show that climate can change over the course of a decade.
Christine the Lioness spake, and sayeth
How is Katrina Bush’s fault??? Well… the hurricane itself I can’t blame him for… for covering for the head of FEMA who grossly mishandled the situation, hrmmm… you’re saying someone put a gun to Bush’s head and made him do that? And I’m not sure that $25,000 will go that far when you have no house, no cars, no clothes, no food, no real infrastructure to procure these things, and no job that will bring in additional income. I mean, after all, Christopher’s car cost him more than that… but that was a super good idea, Kevin. I don’t understand why Bush hasn’t done that…
Katie the Mercenary quibbed this
Well well well.. Im glad to see you guys back in action
I dont understand how you can blame him for the aftermath, if the people had left this would not be an issue at all, ya know!? And yes if they had really wanted to leave I believe they could have, in one of a couple ways, walk ask a neighbor if you could tag along..anything. Global warming, the hurricanes all the things listed would of happened even if PRes B wasnt in office, and then who would we be blaming? People will look for any reason to make Pres B look bad. Noone ever gave him a chance….
Christopher the Pyro commented
Christine is an absolute expert at blamming people who are not in the wrong.
Christine the Lioness quibbed this
I don’t think I’m the only one who sees that how FEMA handled the evacuations and aftermath was grossly fucked up… atually, I wasn’t aware that anyone disagreed with that at all… it’s pretty hard to deny that it was very poorly managed. So if you agree with that– and most of the country does– then you do have to wonder why the good ole prez was tooting the head of FEMA’s horn about what a great job he was doing… which I saw myself on t.v…. and if you wonder about that, then you really have to wonder why a guy who was doing such a great job was removed from that position. Sorta makes me think he wasn’t doing such a good job… so explain to me, given that scenario, how Bush wasn’t wrong? If Bush said he was doing a great job and apparently everyone else thought he wasn’t and decided to yank him out of his position… how was Bush right? Just trying to understand that… is it anything like saying there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and then when there aren’t, saying but you believe there are anyway? And then blaming it on faulty intelligence? You can’t flip sides and be right both times… it’s just not possible.
Christopher the Pyro uttered
Well my personal opinion on this is that FEMA did a shit job, but I doubt there was really a whole lot anybody could have done. Communications were completely gone, there were no roads… it was like an unreachable black hole. It’s just that simple. I also think it is important to potray a sense of confidence while a crisis is going on and then when it has pass that is when the axe falls.. hense we have a new FEMA director. That’s just my opinion… it was fucked up regardless.
Katie the Mercenary asserted
Im not saying the FEMA thing isnt messedup, but to blame it all on ONE person is outrageous. The goverbnemtn failed on all levels during the hurricane As for Iraq I do believe there are WMD’s I also believe he SH had enough time to get them out of IRaq and hide them somewhere. But thats just my thoughts. The end will tell all ya know?
Christine the Lioness spake, and sayeth
I’m not by any means blaming the entire Iraq/WMD thing on Bush and definitely not the FEMA fiasco in Louisiana… but before we all get down on our knees and suck Bush’s dick because ‘Gold is over $500.00 for the first time ever,’ let’s look at it objectively and take into consideration the fucked up things along with the good… which basically proves my point in comment 3… that anyone can pick and choose whatever facts they want to include that will support their own agenda and create a spin just by leaving out the stuff that doesn’t support their agenda. And basically, that’s what Christopher did in his post. That’s the only point I’m making.
Christopher the Pyro pontificated
Well I guess gold was $800 some dollars in the 70’s but that is kind of like forever ago.. right? I was only saying that despite all the disasters, things really arn’t that bad. Could things like Katrina have been handled better, of course, but can’t you say that about anything that happens.. after the fact?
katie the Mercenary scribbled
we live and learn…. lifes all about learning… 
Christine the Lioness uttered
True… but when you’re leading the most powerful, prosperous country in the world… “oops… live and learn” doesn’t really cut it for me. Y’know?
katie the Mercenary pontificated
I get that…but we are all human… noone is perfect… everyone could always do a better job…. things will be resolved…and if something as tragic as this should ever happen again…it will be handled better, hopefully perfectly!