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Ben2 the Soldier (56) aJ the Zen Master stated
Soccer? US plays soccer? 
Christopher the Pyro scribbled
… is India in the world cup.. umm enough said. 
Keith the Director said this
touche’ ahahah The US is underestimated aj! watch out. And yes soccer is a great sport…to those who are skilled enough to have played or can play the game!
Christine the Lioness got all philosophical
I wouldn’t take what they say too seriously, aJ… very few people here in the U.S. care about soccer… America tends to dismiss any sport it can’t beat every other country at… but watching the World Cup might be pretty fun… I mean it’s not as obscure and borning as say… oh, I don’t know… *hockey*… right, Keith?
eric the Lil' Devil hunt n' pecked this
you know, soccer is under appreciated in the US and always will be because the US has real sports like football that require so much more ability :-”
Christine the Lioness remarked
aJ the Zen Master uttered
Meh.. India is not good in almost all sports except cricket and hockey, and that too if they are in the mood
Well, as I said, almost all, but if you have heard of Sania Mirza (Tennis), Rathore (Shooting) and a few other sports..
But then, I was not comparing India and the US either..
What I did intend to say was, US is not really into Soccer but into it’s own version of “football”, basketball, baseball etc.. Soccer is usually left by them for the europeans and the souther continent..
aJ the Zen Master chimed in with
@eric: ability? Get a few apes who can run down others and that is all the ability you need for American Football
Christine the Lioness chimed in with
Well, aJ… I was agreeing with you until I read comment #8… and you forced me to step up and defend American football (there really is no other kind of football… “futbol” should be eliminated from everyone’s vocabulary… it’s “soccer.” )
*Football* takes a lot more than being able to run people down. There is an intense amount of skill, strategy, memory, and coordination that goes into playing that game. On top of that, it is truly a team sport with each individual player perfecting his role to the best of his abilities to strengthen the team as a whole. Each play has a different goal in the grand scheme of the team’s strategy, and even that changes based on the type of team your opponent is, the score, and how much time is left in the game. It’s much more complicated than a sport where the goal of each play is simply to score by making a basket or kicking a soccer ball past a goalie. In football, there are even different point values assigned to different accomplishments and choosing to go for a field goal over a touchdown can make the difference in who wins or loses.
Most non-Americans don’t have a clue about football. They see a guy throw a football and then a bunch of other guys falling all over (actually one of the highlights of watching football in my opinion )each other and think that it’s brutish. It’s not. It’s very interesting and engaging to watch, and although I’ve never done so myself, I’m sure even more so to play it.
I think those who hold your opinion about football, simply don’t understand how the game works and the level of complexity.
Christopher the Pyro scribbled
I would probably say Soccer is a much more difficult (in terms of skill)and rough sport to play then football.. if only because unless your playing backyard football your specialized.. but in soccer you really need to be pretty good at many different things.. and of course you are in much better shape in soccer. Of course I love my American football tho and anybody who is in the NFL is a sick athlete.
I think it’s only a matter of time until American soccer is on par with the world but as of now the money and players are in the permire leage and the european countries.
aJ the Zen Master got all philosophical
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Christine tell me you were only joking and you realised that my comment that American Football does not require any skill was said tongue in cheek
I know almost no sport which does not require skill, well maybe except the world farting contest
Christine the Lioness scribbled
Aaahh… aJ… I missed the hint of sarcasm in your voice.
Keith the Director got all philosophical
Christine you are on crack…hockey is one of the most exciting sports to watch live or on t.v. If it was boring you must have had a women’s game on ^ 
^ Because MENS hockey is very fast paced and great action.
Aj. I’ll give you Mirza, but rathore??? I hate to break it to you shooting isn’t a sport! You don’t get that one.
Again Christine once again I have to disagree with you…I know what else is new right? Anyway I think we should have been then ones to change Football to another title not the other way around. The rest of the world calls it futbol except us. When it actually makes more sense because you actually use your damn foot to control the ball in that sport. I like knew found knowledge and interest in football, but you might want to watch a few more games of Hockey,Soccer(futbol), and Lacrosse before you go judging skills and toughness needed to play. The last time I checked football players need to learn only one position for offense or defense. They don’t play both offense and defense. Also in the middle of the play a WR doesn’t get put in the linemans spot and vice versa. However in the 3 afrementions sports I named… All 3 require excllent stamina, skils, and the knowledge and ability to play both offense and defense and multiple positions!
Christine the Lioness hunt n' pecked this
I’m guessing you never played varsity football, Keith… am I right?
aJ the Zen Master hunt n' pecked this
Extremely well said Keith.. I do not know much about American Football and/or rugby to have given such a defence for “soccer”
Haas the Addict got all philosophical
All the best to USA .
To be frank Chris, I dont think they will the World Cup, a few matches maybe. But you hv all right to love your team and hope they do well.
Since India wont be appearing in a Football World Cup anytime soon I will be cheering Germany and Eng. May the best team win >-
Christopher the Pyro said this
Keith makes some very valid points.. about learning only one position.. at the highest level of sports.. NFL athletes really are limited in their specific skill position knowledge. Sports that require athlets to know all sports do require more knowledge…
Christopher the Pyro remarked
ack.. ok today sucked.
Keith the Director up'n wrote this
No Christine I actully did play varsity football for about 2 weeks, but it wasn’t worth my time. It coincided with my soccer schedule, and caused to many practicing conflicts. Plus my hockey teams training, workouts and practices started before football and soccer ended which made more scheduleing conflicts. It was hard enough to juggle soccer and hockey let alone football. So I had to give up one. I chose to give up football in favor of soccer because we played twice the amount of games and it kept me in better shape for hockey.
thank you aj and chris at least some people understand logic
Christine the Lioness stated
So that’s a *no*, Keith… playing for two weeks means you *didn’t* play v-football.
And people tend to have more respect for sports they played than the ones they didn’t… that’s just human nature.
In terms of being in good cardio shape, I’ll say soccer probably does that much better than football… but in terms of sports with overall strategy, I think football is more complex, and therefore more engaging (in my opinion) than soccer or basketball (not that the other two aren’t great sports - they are). But considering that football is way more popular in this country than soccer… I’m not sure why you’re all acting like I’m of a lone opinion on this. If forced to choose between watching U.S. soccer play Argentina and a Penn State game, I’m guessing you’d choose Penn State. I know I would!
Trouble the Pirate hunt n' pecked this
As a member of FIFA, the USA plays ?FOOTBALL?? Not ?soccer.? The word soccer is a nickname for the game of football, that is only used by Americans, in order to easily differentiate between the game of football, and American-football, and avoid the confusion that results when some fans of American-football are too lazy to call their sport by its full name. The rest of the world acknowledges the difference between the original game of ?football? and its spin-offs such as American-football, Gaelic-football and Australian-rules football.
Anyone open-minded enough and who has any interest in the history of the game of football, please feel free to use this link:
http://www.fifa.com/en/history/history/0,1283,1,00.html
Every armchair quarterback, goalie or winger is entitled to their opinions of their chosen sports? The value of any sport, whether played or observed, is what you personally get out of it.
All sports should be played with good conduct, with an emphasis on fairness, and to the best of the player or team?s abilities. Spectators should by all means support and take pride in the accomplishments of their home, or favorite teams, and sports?But they should also respect the skills of the opponents, and acknowledge that even though they may not be interested in, know the rules of, or understand the complexities of other sports, that does not diminish the skill or dedication required to play them.
I personally scoffed at curling, golf and darts? Until I tried them, and then I stood corrected? Except with the curling, I sat on my black-and-blue-cold-wet-ass corrected?
Keith the Director asserted
A unfortunate event happened and I had a crash which recovered my pages but not my text. Because I had a really lengthy and detailed post of my true feeling hear, but it was too long to type, and I’ve just decided to not beat a dead horse. Everyone’s entitled to their opinons, likes and dislikes.
Christine as far as #20 you are very far off. Football players do not strategize at all. Theyare given plays that they practice week in and week out. Players have to go to certain spots on the field. It’s a given! The only people even close to strategizing anything is the offensive and defensive coordinators calling the plays from the booth or perhaps the coach if he decides to over rule the original play called. The players just execute the play called. Not to complicated if you ask me for the players. If if X-ray 25 is a Post pattern and it’s called the WR best get his ass to the post or the ball falls incomplete and he gets to sit on the bench for the next play or 2 for not being where he should. However in hockey, soccer and lacrosse there are no set plays. Players have to think and react all the time. Always moving to open space or create open space and scoring opportunities for themselves and teammates. Thinking on the move while controling the puck or ball is strategy. Going somewhere on the field you have to be and you get to practice all week for is not strategizing.
Keith the Director spake, and sayeth
Oh I forgot something… sry you can see how long my original post was i forgot what I had said. I bleed blue and white for PSU. I always have and always will. I don’t miss games, and I am also damn proud to be an american and support our athletes to the hilt when engaged in competition. Which fortunately I will never have to choose between a PSU game and a World Cup match between US and Argentina because they are played in opposite seasons. However before you even think it Christine, Hypothetically speaking should the 2 coincide and I had to choose…I wouldn’t. I would bring in another TV and watch both at the same time.
Christine the Lioness uttered
Or you could just get this nice little thing my t.v. has called picture in picture, Keith.
And I was referring to “strategy” from a spectator’s point of view. Not the players. Once a play is called, there’s not much spur-of-the-moment decision making that goes on on the field that’s true. But I still find it more strategic to memorize hundreds of plays and choose the right one for the moment than to be in a game where you’re playing offense and defense, and are making decisions on the fly. While that has its own allure and the player needs to be smart and a good athlete to do well, making decisions on the fly is more reactive than it is strategic. For example… baseball (hate it, but it is strategic). The player at bat, decides what he will do based on which bases are loaded. Basketball (like it… it’s really fun to watch) but it’s not strategic. The only thing you do is try to get the ball down the court and into the hoop. Maybe I’m not making myself clear, because it seems like you keep missing what I’m saying, Keith. But oh well. I’m not that fond of dead horses either. >-
Keith the Director added
picture in picture is cool and all, and i actually do believe my Flat screen is equipped with this new feature you speak of, but I’d rather have to full size screens to enjoy both games on. Thats true love!
Christine the Lioness uttered
It certainly is.
Trouble the Pirate quibbed this
Keith… Never argue sports stuff with a girl…They just don’t understand 8-|
Keith the Director mentioned
I usually would agree with you 110% trouble on this issue, but I thought I’d take a stab in the dark with Christine. i guess I was wrong and should have trusted my gut!
Christine the Lioness commented
Sorry to disappoint.
Christopher the Pyro got all philosophical
I wouldn’t recommend not arguing ANYTHING with her… (for the same reason Trouble mentioned before..) :-”
Trouble the Pirate added
Intentional double negative Chris? The comments seem to have stagnated… I hope it wasn’t something I said, I was just kiddin’ Christine. In fact, I’m always impressed by your arguements, they’re usually very insightful… For a girl…b-)
Christine the Lioness commented
Intentional use of double negatives implies a much better grasp of the English language than Christopher has ever demonstrated… so I think it was a mistake.
Christopher the Pyro said this
Blow Me. 
Christine the Lioness added
See… it’s much more intelligible when he keeps his sentences paired down to two words max… command form, verb, direct object. Crystal clear.
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