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Keep_up_with_katie the Groupie asserted
Christine-I watched this man’s interview on a morning show not too long ago… I wasn’t even in a fight with my boyfriend (that morning), but I immediately called and bitched at him, just to make sure that he would verbally say he never heard of the site or would go there, and then as soon as we hung up, I am positive he had to see it out of curiosity, (that is just men). I mean if I am perfectly happy, with no fidelity issues and I just happened to see this man’s interview and it pissed me off enough to verbally abuse my man almost, which is probably this dude’s tactic to get spouse’s etc to go to the site. Promise me you will never go to that site translated to(you bitching at me right now has given me permission to go to the site, and that is number 11 in man code). The man looked extremely uncomfortable during his morning interview, and he kept trying to say that there was other things on the site beside’s dating, like you might just want to meet another married person and go fly a kite, or go on a pic nic, or shopping spree. He kept saying this over and over, until they asked him about the initial registration form and the check the box choices, ” do you like anal sex, flogging, threesomes, siamese twin midgets”, i mean a really long list of some seriously kinky stuff, which was a far cry from flying a kite! Ok 1.you shouldn’t have choices on there like that if you aren’t going to actually commit to them and use them. For instance one slip of the mouse and you clicked siamese twin midgets when all you really wanted to do was just fly a kite, then you have this totally awkward meeting, your cheating spouse gets turned on to something new, which is just a distraction from the fact that if they do actually hook up with this siamese twin midget kite flyer, they will do the same exact thing to the person(s) that accidentally clicked the wrong button and thought they found exactly what they were looking for. Two cheaters that are unhappy in the marriages, and leave their spouses, marry each other, and raise the children from both households, and these poor kids are so beyond therapy at this point because, all they will see is dad left mom for twin siamese midgets, who is(are) my new stepmother, and you shouldn’t ever try to work things out in your 5 10 15 year marriages, just go to ashley madison and forget your problems with new neat kite flying siamese twin midgets, and that is what you do to make marriages last. Where are the ethics, morals, ???? This man that created this site must be the biggest pussy, because he had to make this site to meet other married women, women midgets, etc, because he couldn’t decide for himself that he wasn’t happy, tell the wife to her face, and divorce her if they couldn’t work things out, he had to fake being happy at home, then go hump every one else’s wives, the “else’s” wives caught on, and now monogamy has turned to shag-on-a-me. I am sorry for rambling… but this dude really pissed me off. We all know a spouse coming home late every day for the last six months from work , wasn’t flying a freaking kite.
ProphetJoe the Irreverent thought this
Hmmm, this could pose a significant dilemma for men. It’s a known fact that most of us enjoy flogging Siamese twin midgets while doing them “backdoor”… so is there an “All of the Above” checkbox??
Keep_up_with_katie the Groupie got all philosophical
Well… to be honest, that is the box that I checked… just wanted to leave my options open, there is of course for the timid, and unsure, the “Uncheck All”, so they can just live the dream of checking all the boxes, then uncheck them all because they know they shouldn’t be on Ashley Madison (that is the name/s of the siamese midgets)site anyway, and should be at home, trying to get their wife drunk and flog them first while doing them “backdoor”. And if that doesn’t work, then you know where your dream come true is at, just don’t get over zealous and forget to check “All the Above”.
I find it fascinating all men enjoy flogging Siamese twin midgets while doing them “backdoor”.. but can you do that while on a pic nic and simultaneously flying a kite. The kite flying seems to be the “I didn’t really do anything wrong” clause.. as well as the pic nic. So I present to you a question, Four entries from behind, you got ten fingers, ten toes, it’s like a rubic’s cube for your mind.
Keep_up_with_katie the Groupie hunt n' pecked this
And really, as a caution, doing all of the above with added kite flying , if the kite string gets caught on anyting, that could just turn into a freakin mess, and destroy the entire pic nic. 
Christine the Lioness uttered
The whole thing is a big disappointment anyway if there’s no wind.
ProphetJoe the Irreverent pontificated
Hence the phrase “there she blows”!!
Christopher the Pyro mentioned
The most important question.
Does marriage offer any benefit to society for us to degrade?
ProphetJoe the Irreverent said this
“Does marriage offer any benefit to society for us to degrade?”
Huh?
ProphetJoe the Irreverent stated
Sorry, ‘topher, it’s been so long since you commented, that I forgot about your cynical nature!
ProphetJoe the Irreverent thought this
And it is SO ironic that, in addition to having Ashley Madison ads in your banner, you also have PeepSheet which advertises — “Report Cheaters Now!!“
Christine the Lioness asserted
I think what Christopher was saying is… what actual benefit does marriage bring society? If there is no benefit, then the idea of not respecting it doesn’t have a negative impact on society.
My response to that is that the institution of marriage does provide stability to our society. I tend to think that for the most part, children in homes with two biological parents tend to have more stable upbringings than children who have mothers who have children by other men before or after their fathers and the fathers that father several children by different women, or parents that don’t live in the same household or ever get married. That’s not to say that people can’t live together, love each other, commit, and raise children in a household and not sign the papers and officially be married (folks in Quebec do this all the time). But I think the idea that many people have going into a marriage that if they some day don’t like it or change their mind, they’ll just get a divorce.
Christopher the Pyro stated
While marriage theoretically does bring some semblance of stability to society it also seems to bring chaos. At this point the divorce rate is what.. 60% and those people who have been divorced once again at even a higher rate… is there really any stability in this contract at all when over 50% of the people do not honor it?
Marriage is all good and well when it works out however with so few actually working out it just seems like it’s even worst that so many relationships exist on a false pretense. I mean the newest marriage voes are actually taking this into consideration…
Until death do us part has been changed to Until love fades do us part…?
Keep_up_with_katie the Groupie uttered
So true. The instilled dream of just “having a life partner” , in marriage, in whatever relationship you have or had, has been completely replaced with pressure of the woman and the man being together forever and ever. Instead of it’s cool to be married and marriage being respected. After the messy, divorces, and breaking up of relationships because someone doesn’t know if you are the one for them or vice versa, all the statistics thrown in our faces, and they are true, why would with the pressure, and the statistics and the “well if it doesn’t work out we can just get divorced”… makes it all seem like a high school relationship, even with children and it’ s no big deal to be respectful of marriage. It’s like we have hit the “age of aquarius” again and Free love with absolutely anyone is okay, but with some severe consequences, mostly financial, and mostly affecting children, and it still continues to happen. The consistency and stability of a relationship, or a marriage seems so premeditated to do fail, for the slightest reasons… because everyone just thinks it’s so easy to just leave it and trade up for another one, why work on what you already have? I personally think investing time, energy and sharing your life with someone in marriage/relationships, is something to invest your time in, is something to work on. I mean … when you leave one relationship and go to another, all you are doing is trading one set of problems for another. You will eventually have to work on “problems” in any aspect of your life. Emphasis should be on working it out, and trying. Not kite flying siamese twin midgets, because your wife/gf started talking to you during the football game, or she nagged you to death over cleaning out the garage.
Christine the Lioness got all philosophical
I completely agree with you, Katie. The problem is with peoples’ attitude of trading up and not valuing a marriage enough to work on it when you hit rough times. But people do this with every aspect of their lives now. Don’t like your job? Just quit and find another one? Don’t like your neighbors? Move. Don’t like your kids’ teacher, put ‘em in a different school. True happiness does come from accomplishing something and working through adversity. I think these sites that promote bailing out when times are tough don’t help us whether it comes to relationships or anything else. With companies advertising “divorce parties” and divorce “gifts” to help people celebrate their divorces, we’ve become a society that now celebrates our failures. I’m not suggesting that divorce isn’t appropriate in a lot of cases, but with rates of choosing a life partner and being wrong with your choice more than your odds of flipping a coin, that’s a problem.
ProphetJoe the Irreverent remarked
I think much of it comes from 2-3 social changes I’ve seen in my lifetime. The first is the “Me Generation” attitude. In the 60’s and 70’s, one of the overwhelming social attitudes among the youth culture was “if it feels good, do it”. The result was a lack of self-discipline and self-denial. Just 20-30 years earlier, during World War II, the US had a population that scrimped, saved and sacrificed for the war effort. There was a sense of community and unity. In the
60’s and 70’s, that left. What became important was “what’s in it for me?”
The second change is what Rush Limbaugh likes to call the “feminization of America”. The educational system switched from teaching facts and figures to teaching social issues like diversity and political correctness. We have, in many cases, stopped talking about “thinking” and the “facts” of a situation. Instead, one of the most common phrases you hear now is “how did that make you feel”?
Feelings are important, don’t get me wrong, but our focus seems to have shifted. Now, we hear about how the wife felt “cheated” and “angry” before she shot her husband and how she now feels “sorry” that she killed him. What we don’t hear is that she killed her husband in a crime of passion and should be held accountable.
Perhaps a third part of the equation is the lack of faith in some influential segments of society (politics, education, the media, big business, etc.). It seems like society, as a whole, decries faith-based initiatives. When we have large segments of society that don’t believe in a high power, then they don’t feel accountable to anyone but themselves.
So there you have it. Most American adults are self-interested, emotionally driven individuals with poor self-confidence. If you found those same characteristics in a child, I would call the child a “spoiled brat”. (Of course, these days we don’t have spoiled brats. we have ADD or ADHD kids who need medicating…)
Is it any wonder that successful marriages are in decline?
ProphetJoe the Irreverent hunt n' pecked this
Uh-oh, Christopher, you’ve got some spam slipping through the cracks… a.k.a. Raaj and Nick and their “love position” comments…
Btw, back to the subject at hand — I must not have had my caffeine this morning when I wrote the comment above… I can’t believe I didn’t mention oral sex, anal sex, or flogging Siamese twin midgets even once… my apologies to Christine. I’ll do better next time — I feel bad about it.
Keep_up_with_katie the Groupie remarked
I think when someone in your life that is important to you, tells you they need to time to think if you are the one for them, or that they want their freedom, and maybe time apart is something that is going to be some grand epiphany that you will suddenly be the one for them when they wake up from their self indulgence journey..is someone that will never wake up from this particular journey. This is where i agree with joe. NO matter how they have simulated a false sense of a relationship in friends, gf/bf/spouses, they don’t even believe in they high power of themselves and they loose the faith, however short it was, in the relationship they are in, and completely become this person who feels accountable to noone but themselves. Their self reflection and their freedom, where does it really lead them? Right back to where they started prior to the relationship that developed, the exact same self indulgent person who takes only accountability for no one but themselves. If self reflection doesn’t shine any new light, even on yourself, and you remain the same person, you have done yourself no justice. You have unfourtunately become more self centered and remained ignorant of who you are and who you could be with the person/s in your life, which is monatanous, and not really any journey at all. If you can’t take your self places, even within yourself, are you really going anywhere at all? Especially if your jouney took place because you felt you weren’t happy with yourself in the first place. If you can’t learn from your own mistakes, or, past, or self, and you only indulge your own self interests, and not open your eyes and mind to an exciting adventure without only you….it’s quite boring, and mundane…i find a boring and mundane life unfulfilled. I like to surround myself with the people that have qualities in which I somehow wish I had. Even though I may never develop that quality, it is so nice to know that person is in my life and I find my self happier having that opportunity to be in a growing environment, versus, a false inner reflection that I was too proud to actually grow in or even entertain. Severing relationships because that person stimulates you to reflect, and not really on yourself, is really basically perpetual self destructive cycles, that leave you regretful at some point. Regretful that you know deep inside, you will down the line, repeat this exact cycle. Because you are still thinking only of yourself. My favorite quote…As Good As It Get’s, when asked of Jack Nicholson…”How do you rate women so well?”…. Jack says, ” I take a man, then I take away reason and accountability.” Well besides being so gender specific, I think that quote could be applied universally…”I take that person, then I take away their reason and accountability.”
Keep_up_with_katie the Groupie mentioned
Shizzle sticks…. your right, joe…. what happened to the flogging,??? I miss it. 
ProphetJoe the Irreverent pontificated
Hey, Katie…. I was just wondering, you know, if, umm… uh, are you a Siamese twin midget by any chance? If so…
Trouble the Pirate added
I’m not even gonna touch this one with a ten-foot Siamese, midget flogging pole…
ProphetJoe the Irreverent chimed in with
You’ve touched worse!
ProphetJoe the Irreverent thought this
and where the hell is your web site — I can’t find the URL anymore…
Christine the Lioness got all philosophical
I hope Trouble’s Island didn’t find the same fate as Three Mile Island…
Boy Wonder the backdoor [wink] the Virgin thought this
Holy tryptophan batman! It sure is quiet in here… Too quiet…
Batman [wink] the Virgin pontificated
Looks like the work of the sandman Robin… You go in first, and I’ll be close behind you… Very close…
Christine the Lioness commented
There’s a lot of winking going on.
ProphetJoe the Irreverent got all philosophical
or twinking… 
Ken the Virgin pontificated
Just to let you know I found out that my wife of 9 years saw the ashley madison ad on tv, she was curious and went on the site.
She told me that she was just looking and chatting, she said the men were friendly. She met with one guy for coffee while i was at home watching our two boys. She said it was friends only and that they talked about their spouses.
Then she went back a few weeks later and a guy 18 years younger than me started chatting with her. she must have been interested. She told me she just wanted someone to tell her she was attractive. She said that she thought when he saw her he wouldn’t be interested anyway. Well another Saturday while I was home with the kids and off she went for coffee. She met with this loser and he was interested, she said he wanted to go for a drive and talk to get to know her better. He took her to his and his wifes place and said lets go in for a drink.
They were on the couch having a drink and he pulled out his unit and pushed her head on it. she was sick. she was stupid. the problem is i have loved her for years and we have 2 beautiful kids together. This has ruined our marriage. I knew something was wrong, but she didn’t tell me for 2 months when I confronted her. I put a key logger on our computer and got into her email accounts and i emailed the guy. I also went on ashley madison as a woman and he approached me. I have his photos his emails and his phone number.
there should be a site where we could publish the profiles.
The men pay big money to contact women on ashley madison, so they are paying for sex. Last year in canada ashley madison made over 7 million dollars screwing up marriages. I do believe in marriage as a whole I never thought my wife would have done anything like this, but believe me it is devastating.
If this site or sites like this weren’t there it wouldn’t be convenient for these things to happen, more work would have to be put in to do something and give the person time to change their mind.
Also men on ashley madison are taking pictures of the women even when it is just for coffee, they then take a copy of the profile and the emails and blackmail the women into having sex with them or they will tell their husbands.
All in all these sites are for bottom feeders, Losers who can’t stay faithfull to their partners. She should have left me if she wanted someone else. She said she never wanted it to go as far as it did, but how can i believe her?
ProphetJoe the Irreverent added
Apparently, Ken, there is more at issue here than the Ashley Madison web site. Your wife wouldn’t be trolling for men to tell her she was attractive unless she had some issues with her own sexual self-confidence/body image. I also find it suspicious interesting that she would go to another man’s house for an innoncent drink…
That being said, your wife is only human. Some very good, (and otherwise) honorable people have affairs and don’t “mean” to screw up their marriages. None of us are without sin. (let’s face it, we’re all Losers to somebody)
If your wife wants to stay married to you, she will have to commit to that course of action and win your trust back. You, on the other hand, are going to have to forgive her and not use this as a weapon in every argument you have…
Good luck.
Ken the Virgin remarked
She said it was just for a ride to talk, as he didn’t want to be seen having coffee with her at the mall. she said he just pulled up in the driveway and said lets go in for a drink. she said she never planned it.
However she had been chatting with him for 2 weeks before they met.
she said she thought i didn’t love her and didn’t think i found her attractive anymore. She said she thought i only wanted her for sex. But i never knew she had those thoughts. She said she still loved me when this happened, but how could she have loved me and hurt me like this? I am sure all relationships cool down from time to time, but she should have been honest with me about her feelings, then she would have known she was wrong and never cheated.
Now the trust is gone. I want to forgive her and move ahead but she lied to me about it after i cought her, and it took me about three weeks to get all of the truth from her. I can’t trust that she won’t do it again even though she said it made her sick and she will never do it again. How do i begin to trust her?
Christine the Lioness spake, and sayeth
I honestly don’t think trust can be rebuilt after cheating. I’ve never known anyone who found out their spouse was cheating actually have a healthy, trusting relationship after that… although I have to also say that most of the people I know whose spouses are cheating didn’t have that to begin with.
Getting into a car with a guy she just met who she had only been chatting with for two weeks to go to his place for a drink sounds like a mistake an 18 year old girl would make, not an adult woman. Either your wife is pretty naive (you’d have to be to even start chatting with the guys on ashley madison and think they’re only there to have conversations about their spouses– it’s a CHEATING site– of course they’re looking for sex), or she’s not telling you the whole truth.
I have to agree with PJ though that if your wife needs to find other men to tell her she’s beautiful, then you’ve been a part of letting your marriage fall apart. Honestly, if you aren’t complimenting her, you can’t blame her for “Not telling you” she felt she needed someone to compliment her and make her feel attractive. There are some things that you need to do in a relationship without your partner telling you they need that.
I suggest couples counseling. The trust isn’t going to just come back by itself.
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