Fixing the Tax System in America

Posted on April 26th, 2006 by Christine.
Categories: Current Events & Politics.



Okay… so this is actually Christopher’s theory and he’s the one who should be writing this post, but he’s in San Francisco right now on a business trip and I’m not patient enough to wait.

So the boy and I often have discussions on how to fix problems in the world and I could literally spend hours listening to his ideas because most of the time, they’re pretty good. A couple days ago, we got onto the subject of taxes (since they were due on the 15th) and how pretty much the only people who pay them are the working middle class. The poor people receive the benefit from our taxes and don’t pay in because they don’t have a high enough income (this group includes illegal immigrants because they are getting paid under the table). The wealthy don’t pay taxes (well, not to the degree that the middle class does because they have the money to hire accountants to find the loopholes for them). The rich often, not always, but often… own their own businesses and it’s much easier to deduct this and that, and spend your money on things that will help your business, than pay that cash to the government. Those deductions save money that someone who gets a monthly paycheck because he’s a floor manager at Target does not. That’s simplifying it a little, but you can see the problems there…

So Christopher suggested a way to solve a lot of tax/government assistance problems in one fell swoop, and I wanted to present it here to see if anyone could come up with a reason why it wouldn’t be a good idea because quite frankly, I couldn’t think of one.

Christopher’s idea:

Instead of having income tax (some states don’t have it already), have a federal sales tax on everything you buy. So basically, let’s say for argument’s sake that the federal sales tax is 20%. If I’m in California, and I go buy a candy bar that costs $1.00, the state sales tax is 8.25% and federal sales tax would be 20%, then I would actually pay $1.28 for that candy bar. If I buy a car that costs $30,000.00, again with the state and federal tax, the car would cost me $38,475.00. That 20% figure may seem high compared to your paradigm of what sales tax should be, but keep in mind, it is replacing income tax. So all that money that they take out of your paycheck if you’re W-4′d would come to you every month and you would be deciding how you spend it. For those of us who are 1099′d and pay our own taxes in April… we wouldn’t.

This benefits us in four major ways:

1. There is no loophole for getting out of paying sales tax. The seller is responsible for collecting and submitting it (which works since when the payer is respsonsible for calculating it, and paying it, there is more of an incentive to cheat than if its the seller’s responsibility). The seller, who could lose his/her business license for not collecting correct sales tax has a stronger incentive to do it the right way, legitimiately, than to not. I am of the opinion that people have an extra incentive to cheat when their income levels fall slightly over the minimum for a higher tax bracket. If you’re taxed 23% for income up to $45,000 per year, but 28% for income above $45,000, and you make $47,000 annually, chances are you will do whatever you can to find a loophole that puts your income under $45,000 in order to save that additional $2,350 you would be paying in taxes since it’s only a $2,000 difference in income and had you learned $2,000 less that year, you’d actually be making $350 more. Screwy system, right? No wonder people cheat.

2. People who have more money, spend more money. Typically, the people who are driving luxury cars ($30,000 and up) are the people who make enough money to afford those purchases. People who buy expensive items like designer clothes and shoes, go out to eat at upscale restaurants, buy season tickets for sporting events, etc. do so because they can afford it. They are the ones in the higher tax brackets. People who have more money, spend more money, and therefore, would pay more in sales tax (which might not even be as much as they would be paying in income tax… they would have more personal control over it since they are the ones that decide how much they want to spend throughout the year).

3. No more rush filing/extensions/penalties/accounting fees on April 15th. The “tax business” is a big one. Companies like H&R Block make a killing because the tax system is America is so complicated and the fear of being audited and having to pay penalties convinces people that they should hire “professionals” to do their taxes. In addition, the amount of time and money the IRS puts forth in processing tax forms, collecting, and auditing could be better spent and more streamlined if they were simply collecting the sales tax from vendors. Americans would save money on tax filing software, the hiring of “professionals,” and penalties. That is money that Americans could put back into the economy in the form of more spending. And the slowed economy around tax time would also be a thing of the past.

4. Illegal immigrants would help to pay for themselves. Illegals, who avoid paying taxes altogether, would be taxed like everyone else based on their spending. Granted, their spending would probably be much less based on lower income levels, but that’s still something going back into the system as opposed to nothing right now.

5. It puts the choice of how earned income is spent, back in the hands of the people who earned it. If you want to horde your money and not buy anything, that’s up to you. But increased disposable income usually leads to increased spending which in turn, leads to boosts for the economy. Instead of the government deciding how much money you’re going to pay in taxes, you would have some control in that based on your own financial situation, which in theory, is how it should be anyway in a free market/capitalist society.

So, that’s the plan in a nutshell. I’d love to hear your thoughts on it because when Christopher explained it to me, I was pretty damn impressed and couldn’t find anything grossly wrong about how this could work.

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Christopher the Pyro hunt n' pecked this

This idea is flawless… and like Christine said.. as are most of my ideas.
)

April 26th, 2006

Trouble the Pirate added

Sorry to burst your bubble Chris, my country [the Cayman Islands] has been functioning quite well on this type of system for a couple hundred years? or thereabouts. Many people believe we are a ‘tax-haven’ under the simplistic premise that we do not have ?income-tax? like the majority of the rest of the world. Tax is tax, no matter how you shroud it, but the manner in which it is collected by the government can greatly alter its effectiveness.
The pro’s you guys stated are very much real, but there are also a few con’s to be found.

Here, we pay a mandatory ‘duty’ [~20%] to the government on every product or resource that is imported at the time of clearing customs; Cars [27.5% minimum], food, toys, electronics, building materials etc? Basically, if you want, or need it, you pay ?tax? on it.
There are a few exceptions that have reduced, or waived fees, such as; baby food, disabled vehicles, books, certain medicines etc? but on the other hand, certain luxury vehicles, jewelry, alcohol, tobacco products etc? are charged increased duties.

This ensures a good basic cash flow for the government per annum. The government departments are split into self-running ?authorities?; Roads, schools, airports, etc? Which operate independently from the actual government, have their own incomes and expenditures that are closely monitored and audited by the government. Profits from these ?departments? also supplement the overall GDP. Real estate transactions, new construction, bank transactions, travel, and miscellaneous things also have % fees applied to them to further suplement the general coffers…

The up-side? We have negligible national deficit [accrued simply to maintain credit with certain countries? Which shall remain nameless], our money is worth 20% more than the US dollar on the world market, and we enjoy a [hard-earned, contrary to popular opinion] much higher standard of living than even the most affluent areas of the US. This is not an accident. We have a few illegals here too, but they are forced by the system, to pull their own weight, or go without, or move on?

The down-side? We pay US$3.65 for a loaf of bread, US$4.65 per gallon of gas, US$4.50 per pack of cigarettes, US$35 for a bottle of Bacardi, and 19 US cents per kilowatt-hour for electricity?

April 26th, 2006

Ben the Kingpin up'n wrote this

Bear in mind that by making things that simple, you are actually killing two industries, and destroying the jobs associated:

1) Tax preparers and CPAs in general–most deal in taxes in one way or another.

2) IRS itself–which is a MONSTROUS organization that employs THOUSANDS.

However, I like the ideas.

I’d just like to see a system where *everyone* was taxed *equally*. Right now the wealthy pay nearly nothing because they couch all their expenses in small businesses–which deduct expenses from profits before paying taxes. If all taxation was incorporated into purchasing, then everyone would pay taxes (except for the small businesses, who would simply charge that as an expense and the wealthy are still unaffected).

So, in combination, make it so that corporations (all of them) pay taxes at the same rate and cannot deduct their expenses from their profits and only pay on the profits. (That would SEVERELY change the tax base of this nation…)

April 26th, 2006

Christine the Lioness uttered

Actually, Ben… I tried to find the figures on how many individuals the IRS employs and couldn’t find them anywhere online (which I thought was weird). Do you have that statistic? I would guess it is thousands too, but I was wondering exactly how many thousands…

As for your first point, I know it would change that industry, but CPAs do more than just taxes and to create jobs based on nothing more than inefficiency for the sake of creating jobs doesn’t really help anyone. Besides, creating a federal sales tax would create a whole new faction of the federal government that could employ those people. At least… it seems like it might be equitable or almost equitable. -)

April 26th, 2006

Christine the Lioness penned this

By the way, Trouble… the inflated prices for staples (bread, milk, etc)… why is that the case? Because they are imported?

Because the US can and does manufacture a lot of what we consume here, I don’t think we’d be affected like you are in the Islands… we don’t pay sales tax on any food that isn’t junk food, or served in a restaurant, which I agree is how it should be. However, if I wasn’t losing almost a thousand dollars out of every paycheck, I might be willing to pay a little more for things… particularly luxury items like vehicles, jewelry, etc. (well… Christopher should be buying me jewelry -) ) but you get the point.

April 26th, 2006

Trouble the Pirate scribbled

Christine, because we are a small island, it’s just convenient for the government to ‘tax’ at the port of entry, because just about everything we use MUST be imported.
My point is that the US Gov could levy the ‘tax’ when the products leave the manufacturer [for goods produced in the USA], or even when the goods, or the raw materials are imported to the US.
It’s a pretty good system, because if you can afford a Mercedes 500SL, then you can ‘afford’ the 40% tax also.
In answer to your question, luxury items have a higher rate of ‘tax’, staples like bread, milk, cereal, rice etc… Are at 10%, the higher price of staples may be due to the fact that most are perishable… After a 2 to 3 week trip from the farm, or bakery, sitting in 40 foot containers, they only have a short shelf-life here, and the supermarket owners may have to deal with a lot of spoilage, hence they put a higher mark-up on those items… [I’m really not sure…]
Strangely, some items make their way on to the ‘duty-free’ list, such as ice cream; I can only assume that the ?tax collectors? had a sweet tooth.
And, Actually, most of the IRS staff would still be necessary, they would just be directing their efforts at the producers and importers, rather than the consumers…

April 27th, 2006

Christine the Lioness mentioned

Good info, Trouble. Thanks! -)

April 27th, 2006

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