Fuck France – Another Reason Why France Sucks

Those who have read our site for awhile know I have a pretty low opinion of the France, they also know I’m not some PETA lunitic.. but I think this is a extreme even for those fucking lunitics in Europe.
Dog with hook thru snout
STRAY dogs are being skewered on hooks and dragged behind boats as live shark bait. The cruel practice takes place on French-controlled Reunion Island in the Indian Ocean, where Prince William spent two holidays. A six-month-old labrador pup was recently found ALIVE with a huge double hook through its snout – like the dog above – and another through a leg. The pup was found in a coastal creek and is thought to have somehow freed itself from a fishing line. But other dogs and kittens have been chomped up and swallowed by sharks.

43 thoughts on “Fuck France – Another Reason Why France Sucks

  1. The original story appeared in ?the Sun?, a U.K. rag ? and was attributed to Ian Hepburn. Although the Sun is not particularly renowned for it?s journalistic integrity, there is little in the way of sadistic torture that I would doubt a human is capable of.
    The picture in the article was a ?still? from a video produced by the ?Fondation 30 millions d?amis?? A French animal rights organization. The video cites several other articles in French newspapers, which allude to similar circumstances.
    The way the story is written however, leaves some doubt in my mind. It only asserts that one dog was actually found alive, it is plausible that the dog got itself into that situation, as Labs are psychotic swimmers, and may have become snagged in a line set for some large fish like catfish or sturgeon.
    It then goes on to speculate that many other dogs and cats are being used as bait for sharks, saying they have been ?chomped up and swallowed? which by the very nature of that process, leaves little evidence to support the claim.
    The lack of barbs on the hook in the picture also makes me wonder? Any shark would throw that hook in an instant? My jury?s still MIA?

  2. Like I told Christopher on the phone last night as we were having one of our thought-provoking conversations… I think if it were true, PETA would have been all over it and we’d see that picture everywhere to support their cause. It sounds like the French animal rights activists may be doing just that… I think I may have to go undercover as a shark fisherman in France to get the real digs on this story…

  3. The lunatics in Europe when this is happening (or not) on the Ile de la Reunion in the Indian Ocean…French or not, every to some extent enlightened person should realise that there will be a different culture on this island then in Frence itself…check your geography and human logics.

  4. Christopher, you said

    “Sounds like something the French would do ;)

    I live in France and let me tell you that kind of comment doesn’t go down well for me. Tarring a whole nation with the same brush is not a good thing, whichever nation you are talking about. It’s racist.

    Saying that the perpetrators of this supposed action are complete bastards is OK. But saying that it sounds like something they could do because of their nationality is downright bad news.

    Shame on you.

  5. Fruey, I agree. Christopher is an evil man. But quite honestly, of all the Europeans I know, and from what the ones I know have told me, the French are the worst at painting Americans with a broad brush. No European is more rude, condescending, or critical of “The Americans” than the French. That’s why there are so many jokes here in the states about how rude the French are. In order for a joke to be funny, you have to be able to relate… and trust me, people laugh at those jokes, so there must be a good number of us relating. Now, I have never personally been to France, so I can’t say anything about it. But I can say that if people in Puerto Rico (U.S. owned) were using stray dogs as shark bait, the Americans would either just obliterate the island, or stop giving them aid until they took care of that problem. Because… quite frankly… that’s how Americans handle stuff like that. It might seem harsh, but it tends to work. Not to defend Christopher’s obviously imperialistic statement, but you sort of proved his point by getting all up in arms about how what he said was unfair to the French, but you didn’t mention a single thing about that poor dog… which happened to be the subject that infuriated most people… not an off-handed comment about the French. *shrug*

  6. I think you’re wrong about the French being the “worst at painting Americans with a broad brush”. That’s just how the American media has fed you the French ever since Chirac opposed the Iraq war. The French are a generally intellectual bunch and probably more likely to criticise the US intelligently based on political history than, say, the English.

    I did relate to the story too, but I took particular objection to the racist comment.

    I reckon the dog thing is probably an elaborate hoax – or at the least a misinterpretation of a story where a photograph of a hooked dog has been photoshopped or something. If that dog had been dragged through the sea, would the hook be holding so cleanly? If it had been prepared for dragging through the sea, would it not have bled?

    For the record : I’ve been to the US (NYC and Dallas), I’m originally from the UK, and I’ve travelled quite widely. I would not paint any nation with a single brush, but I *might* (and this is the subtle difference) criticise a country on the basis of its government. Which indeed is what the French tend to do.

  7. At the expense of sounding like Christopher here… I’m going to say that the truth is… we don’t criticize other countries, particularly France based on their governments because it’s not important. Most Americans probably don’t know if France has a President or a Prime Minister or a King… and if you asked if they knew that person’s name, I’m guessing maybe 1 out 300 would. Why? Because France and its government is somewhat insignificant to the American people. The rest of the world knows about the U.S. government because, quite frankly, it matters what the U.S. is doing at any given time. What France does or doesn’t do (as demonstrated most recently by the Iraq war) makes relatively no difference to us. So yes… there is a definite “culture” that Americans have that citizens of other countries do not. But I assure you, the French jokes date back long before the war…

    Now, as far as relating to the story… I would put my money on you being right about the hoax. That was my original thought as well, but your point about the hook being too clean, and an earlier point about using that type of hook to try to catch sharks are too strong to ignore. And Fruey… yes, the comment Christopher made was racist/imperialistic/narcissistic. But that’s what Christopher does… he says things he knows will get people all up in a dither… he finds that entertaining. If you poke around our site a bit more, I think you’ll see there are very few groups (French, women, blacks, fat people, Democrats, etc.) that escape a remark like that from Christopher.

  8. It’s nice when the fringe makes broad statements, want to support the lunatic claim with something that would imply he is insane on any level and not just acting in America’s best interest as opposed to Kiribati? I mean I’m pretty sure you have had more insane moments in the last year then Mr. Bush.. I mean I bet he hasn’t stabbed anybody in the shoulder!

  9. “It?s so funny how jealousy makes people so bitter toward our president and our country, it must REALLY suck not to live in America.”

    For a lot of people, it really sucks to live in America.

    It ain’t so much about where you live, as long as you aren’t living in poverty, which can be found everywhere.

  10. Christopher is right… life is much, much better for the privileged, Daddy-bought-my-education Republicans who don’t need to work because the trust fund is sufficient for their gas-guzzling luxury cars and the inheritance from Mommy and Daddy’s company that now outsources to India so Mommy and Daddy can be richer (despite the fact it increases the unemployment rate for the poor liberals that aren’t so lazy) and spend more time vacationing in Europe. Right, Christopher? ;-)

  11. Christopher, I think you do it deliberately “Life always sucks for lazy uneducated liberals..err poor people”. Some of the poorest still vote republican and they ain’t lazy either. Earning minimum wage in most jobs is more physically demanding that sitting in an office forwarding jokes and occasionally coming up with a budget or something.

    I’m going to stop though, because I think you present a lot of your arguments as a sort of extreme devil’s advocate just to get a rise out of people like me :-) .

  12. Jesus H. Christ. We went from dogs getting hooked as bait to politics. **eye roll** There is NO logical transition there, but it all comes back to politics. The dog bait thing is most likely a hoax, Bush IS insane, most Americans are ignorant (how do you think we voted a maniac into office??), and some people still don’t get the sense of humor thing. Almost everything Christopher says is obnoxious, it’s his way. Don’t take it so personally! Oh, and Carol? WTF did you say? Was that English? Seriously, I’ve talked to Dell representatives who spoke clearer English than that.

  13. I find it amusing that liberal, tree hugging, dope smoking hippies all complain about bush being voted in. Deal with it. If you liberals weren’t the type to be too high or lazy to go vote, you might have gotten Kerry voted in.

  14. Maybe you should check your facts, jose… not that I’m suggesting you’re being a little presumptious and uh… perhaps uneducated and maybe even grossly judgmental by saying all liberals are tree hugging, dope-smoking hippies… but you may have forgotten that Bush didn’t win the popular vote against Gore on his first term. I doubt he would have won against kerry if hadn’t already been the incumbant… and I don’t think it was a lack of voters that secured Bush’s second term. I think the country was in a place at that time where most people– liberals included– felt that he would do a better job than Kerry… and historically, very few presidents have lost their second term during a war.

  15. I really agree with Christine’s comment to Jose. He seems like a jackass and I hope he comes back here and types in tons of shit about me for no reason-BUSH IS AN IDIOT! face it. Kerry was not that great of a candidate but next election I have a feeling to the republicans will be out. And on the post…that is one of the saddest things I have ever seen. I had no idea things like that actually occured in the world anywhere, much less in France. I hate to say something like “fuck the french” just because of this, but hey, it’s a big deal…dogs and cats are not bait-they are domesticated (usually).

  16. Why is Bush an idiot? The American people overwelming voted him in. The economy is doing fine, he has played the senate and house like a fiddle in getting what he wants, there has been tax cuts, two wars, relitively bloodless wars… for someone to be an idiot, they have to do dumb things. Bush despite his inablity to speak the english language even as well as me, is far from an idiot, but everybody hates a winner.. especially whinny loser liberals.

  17. Relatively bloodless wars? Tell that to the families of the 2094 dead US soldiers. How about the 15,000+ injured? And tax cuts, well sure he may cut taxes, but our national debt is outrageous. I can’t really tell if you’re being sarcastic or not, Christopher, but all in all I agree with the “idiot” assessment. He’s not even the one playing the House and Senate, he’s simply the puppet used to get what certain people in this administration want. He’s not intelligent enough to come up with these schemes on his own.

  18. Crystal, I’m speaking in facts here:
    War……………………….American Deaths
    Revolutionary War…………..4,435
    War of 1812………………..2,260
    Mexican War………………..13,283
    Civil War………………….624,511
    Spanish-American War………..2,446
    World War 1………………..116,516
    World War 2………………..405,399
    Korean War…………………36,516
    Vietnam War………………..58,152

    Wants some more #’s that make the Iraq war relatively bloodless:
    Total people killed in World War I: up to 15.1 million
    Total people killed in World War II: up to 61 million

    Crystal the cost of inaction (Hitler, Stalin, Somalian Genocides, ect, ect, ect) is often time quite great. Saddam was killing thousands of his own people every year, getting rid of him wasn’t a bad thing. As for our national debt being big right now, it’s not small but it was large in the 80’s also it’s a cycle, which goes back and forth and 200 years of history shows this to be the case. As for Bush not be intelligent, I don’t know if he is or not, but I doubt very much he is any kind of puppet, mostly people who actually believe that are just blind sheep who only look at one side of a issue. The truth is two people Bush and Kerry for example can look at an issue and see two completely different solutions, one might be right and one might be wrong, but neither solution is idiotic becuase the other disagrees. So someone is intelliegnet enough to become the most powerful man in the world, basically get the wars, tax cuts, judges, and laws he wants but he’s a puppet… right…. whatever you say.

  19. I guess the facts do speak for themselves. I still agree with Crystal though. I think the national debt is out of control, and Bush’s only tax cuts have bascially been for the rich. Comparing Bush and Kerry isn’t fair-Kerry didn’t stand a chance no matter how sorry Bush was. Clinton was a great president though and the debt went down with him, and so did taxes. If he wouldn’t have been fucking everyone he saw, he could be been one of the best presidents ever. The whole war is Bush finishing the job daddy could never finish…nothing more. Looking foward to you calling me a whining liberal agian by the way. Having pussy blog battles online is the only way I get a laugh out of the day sometimes so thanks.

  20. Well, Chris.. I’ve got to give it to you. Your the first person to post on CvC who choose to reconize the facts of a situation and then ignore the.

    As for tax cuts being for the rich, this is all a matter of perspective, and very muchup for argument depending on you look at a tax ut.

    Liberals like to say it was a tax cut for the rich becuase it was a larger dollar amount but in reality the middle class had a larger percentage tax cut. (I’ll take that percentage tax cut any day of the week I’m not sure about you tho). Let me explain.

    A liberal argument is usually framed this way, the top .1% of the country got a huge tax break and nobody else go anything… not exactly true and here is what I mean.

    People making 200k a year and up get a 1% tax break. If you made 200k a year you would save $2000.00 a year in taxes.

    People making 55k to 75k get a 3% tax (middle class) If you made 55k a year you would save $1650 in taxes.

    So if this is a tax break for the rich, that really isn’t true the middle class got a large % tax break, they just dont’ make as much as the rich so the #’s can’t really add up to be as much. If I make 5 million an year and I get a 0.001% tax break, that is going to be more money then a 10% tax break if I’m making 55k a year. Also, that 0.001% tax break is rather irrealivant to the person making 55k a year, would you rather get a 1% tax break if your making 55k a year and a rich person get 0% tax break.. or would you rather get a 3% tax break if your making 55k a year and a rich person get 1%.

    That is really what Bush’s tax breaks were, again, the facts speak for themselves.. but we can speak in fanasty all day long if we like.

  21. Is that tax cut worth it when we have no social programs? Schools are sorely underfunded, putting American children at a disadvantage to foriegn children in the future. We have no health care system, we’re way behind most developed countries in that sense. What about our poor, you focus on middle and upper class, but the truth is a great deal of our nation lives at poverty level. Also, when figuring those tax breaks, what about the inflation? You may pay the IRS a couple thousand less, but you’re making up for it on fuel prices, inflated prices on other goods, and cost of living expenses. So, the tax cuts are not helping us at all. Chris is right about Clinton, things were very good for us as a nation when he was in office. As for his infidelity? Well, Kennedy was a philanderer as well, but no one mentioned that back then, because his personal life was not as much a national focus. I think Bush might benefit from a blow job or two, maybe we’d all be better off for it.

  22. The interesting thing about Clinton was that he just signed Republican budgets, and programs. Really one person doesn’t have much power here, to think that Clinton had anything to do with the internet tech boom is a little dreamy.

    I don’t know if schools are underfunded, here in California our school system get’s 50 BILLION a year, and they can’t even provide books, so it seems to me there are more ineffecineces in teh system then not actually enought money.

    The poor don’t any taxes so they are irrelivant to the the conversation of tax breaks. If you are below the poverty line.. (15 or 20k) a year, you don’t pay any taxes.. and sometimese you actually get tax credits.

    The argument about inflation makes no sense. ZERO. Inflation implies that salaeries alos rise, so the tax break would rise along with it, because it is based on a %. I thin what your telling me is that, you would rather make 50k a year get no tax break because fuel (a comodeity) has risen, and inflation (a relaction to saleries) has also increased… hmm.. considering inflation has risen since the beginning of time.. as do saleries.. you’ve lost me.

    In reality things really arn’t different at all then the 90’s, it’s just human nature to remember the past as better then the present.

    Thre is a very interesting article in Nov 14th Newsweek on page 45 about this very thing.

  23. Salaries are not rising as rapidly as cost of living. If the cost of living goes up 5%, and you are only getting a raise of 2%, you are still worse off. That is simple math. And since you want to argue numbers, Clinton left office with a budget surplus, the first a long time. Bush blew that, and we have nothing to show for it. How is that “better off” than the 90s?

  24. The French are the type of people not to care. They are probably too busy eating cheese to care or raise issue about this.

  25. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9664312/site/newsweek/
    Hey people.
    You all sound like you have a lot of growing up to do.
    Never generalise, it’s bad for the world’s health and your vision of it.
    Read the real concern and digest it – before making all the French
    bad people. A few incidents do not account for a nation, especially
    since that nation is outraged as well and working at punishing the
    culpits.

    Read this article.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9664312/site/newsweek/

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