Christine the Lioness pontificated
Well… isn’t that sort of what Christian Scientists believe? Which is why they don’t go to the doctor, etc? But the flip side of that is… if it were “destiny” that the human race would discover things like blood tests to detect Cancer, medicines to ease the pain and deterioration of diseases like Arthritis, etc., then apparently it is within the realm of destiny for individuals to make use of those discoveries. And while it may be your destiny to die in a car accident some day, to do something crazy like jump off a building because you don’t think you will die (since that’s not your destiny) could seriously jeopardize the quality of life you have while you’re here and waiting for that car accident.
Christopher the Pyro remarked
Except if you believe in destiny then it doesn’t matter if you go to the doctor the treatment has the same outcome either way.. your either destine to suffer or not.
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Chaim the Groupie up'n wrote this
Perhaps you are destined to go to the doctor? If we are to take the predestination and fate idea to its maximum, then whatever decision you make (doctor or not) is the fated one.
Christine the Lioness pontificated
Good point, but during the decision making process of actually making the appointment to go to the doctor, what’s the motivation? I see what Christopher is saying… that they would simply not make the appointment because they believe it’s fate to get whatever they have, and are not motivated to do anythhing.
Christopher the Pyro chimed in with
If you were destine tho, wouldn’t that fall into your lap somehow.. like you meet one on the subway?
Chaim the Groupie up'n wrote this
The thing is that destiny doesn’t have to be something that happens *to* you; it can also be something that you do. Someone who believes in something like “the will of God” (say, a Christian Scientist) believes that one should not go to the doctor because it is better to trust in God, because if it is God’s will that a wound or sickness be healed, then it will be healed. This hypothetical person does not believe in “destiny” so much as they believe that it’s best to leave decisions up to the giant Celestial Bearded Fellow rather than make choices for themselves.
However, someone who believes in destiny and predetermined fate to its fullest extent believes that all events will happen the way they will happen and there’s nothing you can do to change it. If you decide to wear the green shirt instead of the red, then that’s what you would have decided. The sensation of “free choice” is but an illusion. There is “free choice”, but the choice that you will make has, in fact, already be determined. There’s nothing lazy about it. It’s about accepting the source and direction of things, perhaps, but belief in destiny certainly doesn’t have to be an act of submission and “waiting for things to happen”.