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Wow… that’s really bad… I’m glad he’s banned for life. There is no place for that shit on a basketball court. And I hope the ref (or his family) sues that guy’s ass for every penny he’s made in that league… ever. Maybe that will teach him to think before he starts throwing fists.
Now why Christopher decided to add a racist component to that by calling him a “stupid n—–” I don’t understand… (unless his goal is just to piss off our readers for no reason and prove he can be a racist). I don’t think anyone can deny the fact that violent, asshole athletes come in *all* colors. You know… call the guy an asshole or a prick or a fucking idiot or a worthless piece of shit for all I care. But once you call someone a “n—–,” you’re making it about their race, not about their actions and it says more about you then it does about them.
Just for the record… you undermine your own point when you decide to pick names that intentionally perpetuate racial shit between whites and blacks. It’s just not the way we need to be going as a society, and it’s one of the simplest ways each one of us can be a part of the solution instead of part of the problem.
eric the Lil' Devil quibbed this
that is actually a recruitment video for the T.O. fan club that Jerry Jones just started in Dallas! makes ya want to join huh?:-??
Christine the Lioness mentioned
Here’s my question… why is he only facing a civil action lawsuit. He should be facing criminal charges too… that looks like assualt and battery to me.
Keith the Director stated
As far as the comment goes..it’s fitting! And this is coming from someone whose friends I hang with regularly…7 of which are black! I’m no racist by any means, but if the show fits wear it. This asshole obviously wears it well and so does T.O. Bonds, Deon Sanders, and Michael Irvin Just to name a few…. I’m getting ready to go out I don’t want to waste the rest of my night addign to the list! 
Per the actual video, yes it’s disturbing, and has no place in sports at all. It’s like the shit I saw at happy hour. There were 4 umpires recently that were hit with bats, and fists by players arguing calls they didn’t like. These incidents which ironically are all dont by ghetto trash blacks…go figure. You can take the n_ _ _ out the hood, but you cant take the hood out the n _ _ _!
Oh and if the ref doesn’t make it he will be favcing manslaughter charges… I hope it doens’t come to that, but he should be facing assault charges etc on top of what he got!
Christine the Lioness spake, and sayeth
I think you may have missed the point about the “n” remark, Keith. Do I really need to explain why that word implies a racial slur??? Seriously??? Okay… I will… the fact that you wouldn’t call the guy that if he were white (you’d find some other name… and probably not one that even denotes his race) means that you are bringing race into it. Which is unnecessary. That’s the only point I’m making…
I’m sure you can make a list of black guys that are assholes. I’m also sure you can make a list of a bunch of white ones too… hell, I’ll even go so far as to say we could come up with a list of Hispanic ones too. So what? Assholes are assholes regardless of race. What you’re doing is no better than blacks who bitch they didn’t get a promotion because their boss is white when it has nothing to do with race… it only has to do with the fact that they didn’t work hard enough to deserve a promotion. Let’s keep the racial aspect where it belongs and see things for what they really are.
aJ the Zen Master spake, and sayeth
That is such a shit reaction. The player should definitely be jailed and face more serious charges than just facing a civil action. Good that he is banned for life!
Keith, Christine makes a very good point explaining it very well. There definitely should be no place for race distinction. I would only repeat what Christine has said so far but that’s cos imo it’s very right!
Christine the Lioness stated
Have I mentioned before that aJ is a smart guy? 
Keith the Director commented
You know I have yet to mention this before but I feel it is pertinent! This is not the 1800’s or even the early 1900’s. The n word is misused all the time. Blacks call themselves it all the time, and i mean ALL THE TIME I worked in a black school for 8 months and it flew around the halls class etc, like no ones buisness. Don’t give me shit either about oh it’s different when they say it. If the word is offensive then it’s offensive. It doesn’t hold the weight and meaning it once did.
Do white ppl go around and say yo what’s up cracker to their best friend? NO!
You can’t even say it’s a racial slur anymore….to me the word is just another word to describe a complete asshole. You could call white ppl or hispanic ppl a n___! It doesn’t matter. The power the owrd once held is gone, and it’s their own fault for doing it. Listen to rap music… I’ll bet you $$ if you can find 1 song that word isn’t uttered in at some point!
Christine the Lioness scribbled
Let me explain a little about the English language. We have these things called multiple meaning words. It’s a word that has evolved to have multiple meanings. For example… “This site is pretty cool” doesn’t mean that the site has a cold temperature. “Take your jacket because it’ll get cool when the sun goes down” uses the same word but in a different context with a different meaning. When you call someone a “n—–” that you don’t know and don’t like for whatever reason, it has a different meaning than when Denzl Washington says, “What’s up, my nigga?” in Training Day. Now… if you said it in the Denzl way… to someone you knew, and a black person overheard it, I agree they shouldn’t be offended because the word wasn’t used in a way that is derogatory to a particular race. But in the way it was used to describe the above basketball player (and the way you used it to describe Barry Bonds) was indeed in the derogatory way. Can you see the difference?
Christine the Lioness said this
Riiiight… the news program that aired it titled it that? Hrmmm… Did they also write the tags for your post???
aJ the Zen Master uttered
Oh Btw, Chrisopher, did you for some reason rename the post title to “Stupid Fucking NIGGER” ? > 
Christine the Lioness said this
Don’t ask man.. just don’t ask.
eric the Lil' Devil up'n wrote this
ok we are all over exaggerating the importance of saying nigger? WTF? quit being a bunch of politically correct pussies and have an opinion that is your own! i applaud christine for stating an obvious fact and truth,and anyone who couldn’t see that the player who threw his career and life away over a foul call is not a stupid nigger, he is a very very stupid nigger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fuck him! now what will he say when he can’t blame his failures and shortcomings on the “oh so ever bad, white man that is trying to hold him down?” My contention is that if you are dumb you should be called just that, as well as fat, ugly, etc. without this bullshit of overdramatising and caring about hurt feelings! soft skinned people should grow up and spend a little time in prison where skin color can mean everything or nothing at all![-(
Christine the Lioness mentioned
Last time I checked, prison was actually for people who commit crimes (and therefore should be separated from the rest of the law-abiding citizens)… and quite honestly, I’d rather hang out with the soft-skinned people who don’t commit crime than criminals who don’t get offended by the “n” word. But that’s just a personal preference.
I’m not worried about hurting anyone’s feelings by using the word nigger… particularly that basketball player. I see it as a bigger issue. I look around and see things like hate crimes based on race, people blaming their failures on another race, etc. and realize that part of the problem with society is that race relations seem to get worse and worse. Even my mom (who is the most non-racist person I know– seriously) just got sued by a black employee for firing her because she said my mom is “racist.” Now… it turns out the case was dismissed by the judge because the black chick was coming into work everyday, clocking in, and then going to breakfast with her friends (Oh you mean I’m not allowed to do that??? Jesus… wtf???). But this woman was such a fucking pain in the ass… she filed a stress case and then filed a complaint against my mom and then took the whole university my mom works at to court because she was “discriminated against.” In the end, it turned out fine, but it put my mom through a lot of stress and could have hurt her career… and that shit angers me so much. I’m so sick of people saying other people are racist because they think they’re entitled to something more than everyone else without working for it. So… that’s why I think this kind of thing is important. It just gives this lazy, fucking losers more ammunition to say “see… everyone is against us… it *is* about race”
So to exacerbate that and bring race into something that had nothing to do with race whatsoever by using the word “nigger”– which no one can deny has a racial implication– just compounds the problem.
But like I said, that’s my opinion, and I know Christopher feels that I focused on the wrong aspect of the post– he didn’t mean for the nigger part to take over the fact that this guy was completely out of line by hitting the ref. But… these comments rarely end up having only one focus by the time everyone is done commenting and I don’t think anyone is going to say that guy *should have* hit the ref, so… that’s why I brought it up. The implications of using the word nigger on race relations and race tensions in general seems like a more important subject than one asshole who ruined his career and will pretty much be hated by everyone.
You can defend using the word all you want, but the reality is… introducing the word at all brought “race” into the equation whether you want to believe that or not. And you knowingly chose to do so when you could have used a whole host of other descriptive words that implied the same thing, but didn’t have any racially derogatory meaning. :-<
eric the Lil' Devil hunt n' pecked this
sweet heart don’t you worry there are more criminals outside of prisons than in them. second of all, you used the word and obviously you meant to do it so suck it up. who cares? nobody has to defend using the word unless they feel sorry for using it and i highly doubt you do, and you don’t have to. the guy is an asshole and that is the point of all of it, we got it
Christine the Lioness got all philosophical
??? You might be confused, Eric… I didn’t call anyone a nigger… you did realize that I didn’t post the original post, right?
In terms of more criminals outside of prison than in them… that’s probably true. But if you look at percentages, I’m guessing there’s a higher percent of criminals in the prison population (I’d guess 98%) than the percentage of criminals in regular societ (just a guess… maybe 15%).
I was just responding to your comment about thinking the soft-skinned people should spend a little time in prison… and I was pointing out that maybe there’s a reason they (the soft-skinned people) are out here… and the criminals are in there.
Trouble the Pirate scribbled
Boy, Chris… You just love to stir up the shit-stew, and watch it bubble man…o
Did anyone see how fast [and accurate] that shit was? Dude was in the wrong sport anyway, should have been a boxer… Maybe there’s hope for his career yet… Long as he doesn’t go biting someone’s ear off, or anything…
As with many media inflated incidents, no back-story is provided, maybe that ref was bad-callin’ him all game, or banging his wife and that was just the final straw.
Plus, the ref’s partially to blame anyway, he’s 5′2″ tall, and 117lbs with an erection, yet he chose a career that places him in the position of bossing around 10 guys who are on average a foot taller, and 100lbs heavier than him, juiced on adrenaline [and possibly other ‘less-natural’ stimulants]… If that’s not a death wish, what is?
It’s a good arguement that attempting to use violence to effect a solution, only causes more problems for all concerned however… I do hope the ref will be okay [as can be expected after that hammering]
I’m always tickled when the posts filed under ‘hilarius’ spark such serious debates…
Christopher the Pyro commented
If a black dude doesn’t want to be called a Nigger then clearly he shouldn’t act like he is fresh from the plantation. That goes for all black people, if you don’t want to be called fat, then don’t be overweight, if you don’t want to be called a drunk then don’t get plastered. If the name fits then hey… it’s not my fault.
Christine the Lioness uttered
Or if you don’t want to be called a racist, don’t act like one and then say you’re not because you have black friends. (shrug)
I think you all might be missing the point about the specific word nigger. But oh well…
8-|
Sticks and stones (and maybe #14) can break my bones, but words will never hurt me… 
Keith the Director said this
Thanx for the english lesson, but I’m well fluent in the English language and know words have double meanings… but all hail, for the clarification! Oh as well have you ever heard of this little bull shit law called affirmitave action? Yeah how bout that? If anyone is descriminated against now it’s the white man! We are 4x less likely to get a position b/c of that fucked up shit…even when we are more qualified… It happened to me 4 months ago at work. I had senority and letters of occomadation in my file 3 inches thick. guess who gets the promotion? Some black guy who has been there 3 years less than me and had a written warning in his file! Thats fucking fair though?
i agree with your points and respect them to a certain a degree, but I will stand by mine and you can stand by yours everyone’s happy!
eric the Lil' Devil asserted
nicely put bro, see some people understand
=d>
Christine the Lioness pontificated
That’s a bummer, Keith, about your promotion. Sorry to hear that. As a woman, I think Affirmative Action has done more to hurt women than really help them in terms of equality in the workplace. You really don’t want to get me started on Affirmative Action… hehe. Honestly… business owners should be able to promote and hire whomever they want and whomever they think will help their business make the most money. I don’t think it’s the government’s place to tell them who they can’t hire. And secondly, if I get hired for a job, I don’t want people thinking they had to hire me because I’m a woman. That sets up a really bad, disrespectful situation for the woman hired if all her male co-workers think she’s just there because they *had* to hire her. People should be hired based on their capabilities. Period. I know that there are a lot of sexist, racist business owners who won’t hire a black or a woman because they don’t want them in the workplace, but again, if they end up passing over a woman or black who could be amazing and help their business for a white guy who isn’t as good, that’s their prerogative and they’ll deal with the consequences of hiring someone inferior. Shit. Didn’t I say don’t get me started???
Back on the subject at hand though… so let me ask you this… would you call that guy a nigger to his face? Be honest… or is it something you’d call him behind his back? Because don’t you think if you called him that publicly, you’d get fired? Or called anyone that at your work even if you thought he was a complete loser asshole?
Christopher the Pyro spake, and sayeth
Look.. you wern’t hired because of Affirmative Action, but you were hired because you have tits.. at least that is usually why I hire a women..
Keith the Director said this
I’m all for equality in the work place, always have been. I have no problem when ppl get hired, promoted or whatever as long as they deserve it over other. Whether it’s a woman, black, asian whatever as long as that person is qualified to do the job and deserve it they should get it. Like christine said if a buisness hires non-qualifed ppl based on race, sex, what have you then that is their perogative, but when buisness is lax and profits are slim they have nobody to blame but themselves.
Christine the Lioness chimed in with
Come on, Christopher… I wasn’t hired because I have tits… I was hired because I’m smart, confident, educated, and eeeeeeaasy…
Some people have to work their way to the top, and some… well, let’s just say… some of us get to the top by being on the bottom.
J/K!!! LOL! I’ve actually never slept with any of my bosses… I’ve slept with Christopher and he *thinks* he’s the boss, but I just let him believe that because it forwards my agenda.
Seriously though now… yes, when profits are low, the business will have no one to blame but themselves if they’ve hired someone who’s half-ass because they didn’t want the one who would be better because he/she was black, Asian, female, whatever. But will they blame themselves??? I highly doubt it.
Trouble the Pirate up'n wrote this
Don’t forget that Affirmative action came about because more than one person recognized that there WAS a problem. It may not have been a perfect solution, but then again, what would be. Those who tout that it?s unfair, probably do so because it affects them personally on one level or another, in a negative fashion.
The problem lies in a simple truth? Whenever the government intervenes on behalf of a percentage of the population, their decision will piss-off another percentage of the population.
How did the slave owners react when they were told that their cheap source of labor and pussy was going to be ?taken? from them?
People don?t police themselves? It?s a fact or there would be no need for laws, lawmakers, and law enforcement. If it were within the abilities of human beings to be fair and unbiased in their decisions, then programs like AA would be redundant.
AA, like all legislation forced on a population, [such as gun control, and such,] in an effort to thwart discrimination or anarchy, and such, will always require revision, refinement, or even complete restructuring to achieve a maximum effectiveness. The major problem with the theory, is that it would require lawmakers to sometimes admit when they acted rashly, or basically ?fucked up?, and actually do something about it? In other words, put in a full day?s work and earn their pay?
Christine the Lioness spake, and sayeth
Except that abolishing slavery had a positive effect on slaves… I personally don’t think that Affirmative Action helped the people it was supposed to help (namely women like myself).
Yes, there was a problem, but the point is… there still is. How does forcing people to hire someone based on race help eradicate racism among the ones in power (white) because racism is the root of the problem. Affirmative Action just exacerbates that.
And it doesn’t put the minority in a good situation either. They may have deserved that job and been the best choice, and hired solely because they were the best, but then you have people who didn’t get the job saying they were only hired because of AA.
Granted, anyone who gets passed up for something will find a reason that it was not their fault. At least most will. And white men are as bad about this as anyone else. I even had a friend that told me after I was promoted above him that our boss (who was a woman) liked women better than men. The truth was– and everyone who worked there realized it but him– that he constantly argued with our boss and everytime she told him not to do something, he found a way to sort of sneak around and do it anyway. So of course, when it came to promoting someone she felt she could trust and wanted to work with more closely, she chose me over him. But my friend’s reaction to blame her instead of looking at himself, is human nature I guess.
Affirmative Action just enables that, and it does absolutely nothing to get to the source of the problem which is racism/sexism itself.
Trouble the Pirate penned this
Every problem has one, or more solutions… There WAS a problem, and now there is a DIFFERENT problem… I think A.A. HAS helped certain people if you look from an ‘end justifies the means’ perspective… The side effects are however, as you all have indicated, a counterproductive sense of apathy in those the program intended to assist, and resentment or frustration from those whom the system steps over to reach its intended beneficiary.
If a kid is being bullied at school, his mom usually goes to school to ‘deal’ with the ?problem? on his behalf, thinking she is helping [a protective instinct]… This is my analogy of AA…
The dad usually signs the kid up for martial arts or boxing classes, to teach him to deal with the ?problem? himself, another [probably more effective] solution to the instance of that problem… There are also other solutions, some violent and some non-violent, less effective still, or even more effective? Several different approaches, each one with its own merits and drawbacks… But each solution has the vehement support of the person who establishes it, and will invariably antagonize those who feel that their particular solution is more appropriate. It’s a ‘give a man a fish… Teach him to fish’ scenario…?
The key is to recognize when one?s own solution is not working as well as planned, and have the open-mindedness to take criticism, and make the necessary steps to right the inadequacies. This is something that ?men-of-power? have great difficulty doing, because instead of rightly viewing it as a great strength, they mistakenly see introspection on their original ?great-ideas? as a weakness? Where it is the only way forward? Nothing is perfect from inception… Except maybe your cleavage?
It is an unfortunate thing, but the ’source’ of the problem will never be remedied… I no longer have THAT kind of faith in humanity… And HTF did we get on this topic anyway?
… And no, I don’t have much work to do today…
Christine the Lioness commented
Keith brought up AffAct… I say we blame him…
Keith the Director thought this
I’m good at shouldering blame I do it everyday…So you can blame me for everything and anything I’m ok with it!
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