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Well said ‘tine!
I agreed with everything until you said; “Guys don’t want girls to sleep with them because they feel obligated to, or because she can make someone else jealous if she does. Guys want women to have sex with them because they want to.”
That’s true, unless you’re talking about a teenage male — they just want to experience the 
ProphetJoe the Irreverent scribbled
I agree that men and women need to take care of their bodies (a temple and all of that), but you made a comment about having a “lean body” which I think is over-hyped in our society. A healthy body is the desire. Not everyone needs or will attain a lean body, and believe it or not, some guys like the full figured girls.
As long as they have a well-proportioned (QQ) figured they’ll catch my eye. 
Christine the Lioness quibbed this
I’m all for obliterating the anorexic-thin body image perpetuated by fashion models and all that, but the truth is… anyone can have a healthy, fit, lean (yes, lean– as in a body fat percentage lower than 23%) if they just try. Being overweight simply isn’t healthy– and I can cite a million resources that will corroborate that– and it’s not sexy either. Some guys may like full figured girls, just like some women like “big” guys… but from my experience with women who like “big guys,” it’s usually because the women are a little big themselves and a “big guy” makes them feel small and petite (something most guys would make them feel if they just lost weight themselves). I’ve never in my life heard a girl look at a guy with a nice, lean gym body and say she’d prefer an overweight guy over that. And I’ve never heard any guy (who didn’t have an issue with security) say he’d prefer some one like Queen Latifah over Beyonce. I think this concept that not everyone can attain a lean body applies to a few people, but most people latch onto that so they don’t have to put in the work it would take to lose fat and still feel good about themselves.
Mara the Peacemaker got all philosophical
Hmm. I truly do believe there are some very secure men who would prefer “Queen Latifah” over “Beyonce” just like there are some who prefer her over me. The “Beyonce” bod is great but not all men are attracted to that and not all men would prefer that. I’m not even sure if most men would because I think standards of beauty and attractiveness vary across time and culture. And vary from person to person. People like what they like and it doesn’t always mean that they are insecure because of it.
ProphetJoe the Irreverent commented
‘tine says: “Being overweight simply isn’t healthy– and I can cite a million resources that will corroborate that– and it’s not sexy either.”
While the first half of your sentence is objective, the second half is purely subjective!
Christine the Lioness asserted
Yes, Mara, time and culture do have an effect on what is considered sexy. I’m talking mostly about the white culture, although I have had plenty of conversations with black guy friends (and black guys I’ve dated) that agree that thin, fit women always look better than the ones who are overweight. Who is downloaded off the internet more– photos of Beyonce or photos of Queen Latifah? We can all sit around and pretend that guys want to look at pictures of naked fat women, but if you pick up a Playboy, or a Hustler, or a Maxim, or a GQ… (mainstream men’s magazines– not ones dedicated to serving a specific population or fetish), the women are all thin and resemble Beyone’s figure much more than QL’s. So while there is an exception to every rule, when it comes to being attractive, it’s safe to say that most people would prefer to be the rule than the exception. If you want to be the exception, and hope that the few guys out there like you’re big fat ass, then you really don’t care about being sexy anyway.
To address PJ’s comment… while the second half of the statement is indeed subjective, I don’t think it’s a far stretch to say that if being overweight implies you do not care to be healthy. Most people do not find an unhealthy body sexy. If you think about it, going back to our nature, survival of the fittest has always prevailed. Females of every species go for the strongest, fastest, healthiest male to father babies. And vice versa. No species specifically looks for unhealthy members of the other gender to mate with. It doesn’t mean that there aren’t guys out there who do find unhealthy women attractive– but they are the exception, and even those that do find fat women attractive– I don’t think they’d look at Brianna Banks and say they don’t think she’s an attractive woman (unless of course that is for the benefit of their fat girlfriends to hear).
Hey… I invite the guys who read this blog to speak up (Trouble, Christopher, Ben, Eric, all of you) and let us know if you think fit, healthy women are more attractive– or if you think overweight women are sexier. I’m guessing that more guys will agree they’re more attracted to fit women than fat ones.
Mara the Peacemaker said this
Christine, I’m not disputing that more people might find “fit” women more attractive than overweight ones. I simply disagreed with your suggestion that no men find overweight women attractive (and by overweight, I mean determined by BMI– some people are overweight but are not grossly fat or obese) or that those men who do are insecure. My point was only that people like what they like. If the guys on this blog think fit women are sexier or would rather be with fit women, etc, again, that’s what they like. To me, that’s like saying all men like big boobs. All men don’t. Some men prefer small boobs or almost none at all. Now having big boobs, I may find that there are more men who prefer them than men who don’t. Same with the weight issue — there might be more men in our society who prefer a thinner or leaner women. But that isn’t the same as saying there are none.
Secondly, I don’t know what black men YOU know but the black men I’ve known and been/are friends with almost always prefer the bigger, thicker women (including the person who might be slightly overweight but she carries the weight well) over someone who looks like me. That isn’t to say that most black women like thinner women or bigger women, but just that everyone has their preferences.
Christine the Lioness up'n wrote this
Well the black men that I know obviously prefer dating or hanging out with girls that look like me (or they probably would have been hanging out with those heavier girls instead of me). As far as the black women that are put forth as sexy in advertisements, on rap videos, in men’s magazines, etc., none of them are really what I would consider “thick” or “slightly overweight,” so if you’re suggesting that most black men find the bigger women sexy, I’m wondering why those women aren’t appearing in the ads, etc. that are targeted to adult black males… it seems like if that’s what those guys thought was sexy, you’d see many more of the “bigger” women in those ads. Sex sells, right?
And yes, everyone does have their preferences. I personally don’t know any guy who prefers flat chested women over ones with nice, full, bouncy breasts– hence, why the market for breast augmentation is so big. If women felt they were less attractive after a boob job, I guarantee there wouldn’t be so many plastic surgeons in business– and you wouldn’t see boob jobs on so many porn stars and strippers. But of course it makes sense that guys that like big boobs are attracted to you if that’s what you have… and the guys that don’t care as much about boobs (butt guys) are attracted to girls who don’t have them. But has a guy ever looked at your boobs and said, “Mara, you know… I would find you so much more attractive if you got those reduced a little…” I just can’t imagine it.
I think you and PJ might be missing my point a little though… my intention in bringing this up in the post was to point out that if you take pride in your body, that is much sexier than someone who shoves a bucket of KFC down their throat and then squeezes their fat ass into some cute little outfit (because cute outfits are in) and then thinks that their body somehow should be appealing.
And with regards to BMI… as a tool, it was designed to allow for different weights on different body types– as opposed to the traditional old height/weight chart. I find it funny that now, as soon as people realize they have to actually work hard to eliminate body fat to be considered “lean” with the BMI, they now want to throw it out and say it’s not an accurate tool either. I’d believe that coming from some place like Italy or Sweden where most of the people are in great shape, but the only ones bitching about the BMI being “inaccurate” are Americans– and we are a culture of overweight people (I think more than 65% are now considered overweight here).
eric the Lil' Devil penned this
i knew this guy that was about 120 lbs and loved big women, i mean big women, the bigger the better, i saw this dude out with his girl and she had legs bigger than his waist! stick figure women are not impressive at all, i like a woman to have hips and atleast a minor ass on her, and to make it easy to understand, the difference between sexy and sleazy, usually; involves on the level of guys the girl will hook up with or the way she carries herself, confidence and sluttiness are sometimes mistaken!
eric the Lil' Devil mentioned
as for the bmi chart christine, what a joke! when i use the bmi scale at age 29, 5′8″ 175 i rate at 32% body fat and am told to consult a physician, i recently went to the parillo caliper test and was at 9% body fat! the charts are not accurate at all unless you live a sedentary life style “with no bodybuilding or regular exercise” to get an accurate count on your bmi hit up a caliper test whether its the parillo, jackson/pollack7 caliper method, or a simple tape measure read of your height neck and abdomen measurement at the belly button 
Christine the Lioness penned this
I think it would be kinda hard to confuse true confidence with sluttiness… those two things rarely come off the same way.
Christine the Lioness stated
I wasn’t talking about the charts. I was talking about the actual test and then you look at a percentage (laid out on a chart) to see if the percentage you tested at is within ideal/healthy range or not. The actual test is sometimes done with a caliper, or I think there is one that sends a current through your body. Regardless of the method, yes, you need to find a method that is accurate of course, but once the number you have is accurate, it’s not that hard to see where on the scale you fit in.
Mara the Peacemaker mentioned
Christine,
Have you ever seen BET uncut? Some of those women are bordering on fat. Some of them literally have fat asses and a good percentage of them are definitely bigger. And as far as the boob thing, I *have* met men who simply do not like big breasts. The fact that breast augmentation is a multi-million dollar business is really irrelevant to this point — it doesn’t prove that all men prefer bigger boobs. What it proves is that women believe they will be more attractive to men with larger breasts — this is always the case though I do think that there may be more men who prefer larger boobs than those who don’t.
I totally got what you were saying in your post (or at least I thought I did). I just wanted to point out that saying that only an insecure man would prefer a bigger woman is inaccurate.
Christine the Lioness mentioned
Well taken. There probably are men who prefer fat women to thin ones– the only one I ever knew was a guy who was very insecure that his girlfriend would cheat on him and although he never flat out said it, we all sort of figured out (independently) that he was encouraging her to stay fat so that she would be undesirable to other guys and always be happy with him– it was like a way to ensure he was always “the best she could get” in a weird sort of way. But again, that’s an exception, not the rule.
I haven’t seen BET uncut. But honestly… I don’t really see famous black guys– the ones with a lot of money and fame– the ones who really have a choice of any woman they want– choosing to be with fat ones. I see them date women like Carmen Electra, Beyonce, Jada Pinkett Smith, Vanessa Fox, J.Lo… I really can’t think of a single one dating a fat girl. Maybe on uncut they do this? I don’t know what that show is about really…
“the fact that breast augmentation is a multi-million dollar business is really irrelevant to this point — it doesn’t prove that all men prefer bigger boobs. What it proves is that women believe they will be more attractive to men with larger breasts —”
I disagree with that statement. I think it is relevant. Because women react and try to emulate what men convey they want, so that they will be appealing. There’s no real guesswork here… men don’t really keep it a secret.
Small breasted women don’t develop complexes about breast size by living in a world where attractive women all have teensy weensy titties. They develop complexes because they see men being attracted by large breasted women and they see the women that people think are sex-symbols having large breasts and they get teased about being small breasted when they’re young, and so on.
Mara the Peacemaker up'n wrote this
“Because women react and try to emulate what men convey they want, so that they will be appealing. There’s no real guesswork here… men don’t really keep it a secret.”
This is what I said
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Mara the Peacemaker scribbled
BET Uncut is a rap video show but it’s on the more raunchy, disgusting end.
Trouble the Pirate quibbed this
Although this is all very interesting, you guys are tangenting. The topic is ‘Sexy or Sleazy.’ Most of what Christine originally said was intended more as guidelines than hard-rules I suspect. A broad topic like this can’t be summed up in 6 points and she’s no doubt aware of this. All men will agree and/or disagree with at least a portion of the 6, and will probably be capable of adding hundreds if not thousands more.
I happen to like a girl with a little meat on her bones, and I am definately an ass man, not a boob man. But different girls can have the exact same physical atribute, and it can work on one, but not the other. Likewise timing can play a factor… Ethnic bacground, upbringing, peer pressure, all kinds of crap… Perhaps it’s best to go to the Gump and say “sexy is as sexy does…”
Sexuality is extremely complex, this is why young women find it very difficult to understand, and practically impossible to master. A lot of what women learn about their sexuality is taught to them by others, emulated from people or situations they observe, or shoved down their throats by ad execs using their insecurity, and nievity to sell products… Sexuality comes from inside and works its way to the outside, much as Christine says. Sleaziness starts on the outside and works its way in the other direction, a downward spiral.
Christines 6 points are a safe guide to avoiding some of the major mistakes, and increasing the chance of coming off as sexy rather than sleazy, much like taking 6 types of lure with you should greatly increase your chances of catching fish. The more subtle nuances are discovered over time, with good experiences that will probably result from sticking to the basics. Real pro’s realise what they have to work with, enhance those atributes, and downplay their less ‘desirable’ ones.
My rule of thumb is that fads come and go, fashion is fleeting, but style endures… This is the reason that the little black dress will always make a woman look sexy. Reveal a little, hide a little…
Guys will fuck sleazy looking women no doubt, but they will pursue sexy women.
To finally put the damn fishing analogy to rest, looking sleazy is like fishing with dynamite, you may catch loads of fish, but you can’t guarantee what type or whether they’ll be in edible condition. If you advertize to the most base animalistic instincts in a man, that is what you wil get.
One of the major contributors to the confusion is mothers. Most mothers hide their sexuality from their daughters, avoiding talking about it, and passing along useful information. Instead, girls are left with tutors like MTV, BET, Paris Hilton and their peers who know about as much about real sensuality and sexuality as they do.
ProphetJoe the Irreverent scribbled
Damn, I’d better say something before Mara gets ahead of me on the comment counter — just kidding, you GO girl!
Christopher the Pyro pontificated
While we all have individual tastes which are fairly complicated I have to generally agree with Christine’s “rules”, are there exceptions yet.
1. Treat your body well. Yes please look good and in shape but you better be willing to have a slice of pizza and beer at the football game even if you have to go puke it up at halftime.
2. Confidence is important, but honestly I’ve never actually meant a woman who knows what this statement means in the end most tend to have some deep insecurity about something or other. I contribute this trait to some great self awareness that men lack, (men are too obvious to realize they should be self aware about certain things ).
3. Pussy is not a negotiating tool, this is 100% true.. unless your dating a loser who doesn’t understand how easy it is to get laid and is extremely attached to the idea of easy pussy.
4. Less is more.. my rule of thumb is anybody can look good done up, but it’s how you look deheavaled at 5am when your leaving my house without makeup and throughly fucked that decides if your attractive or not. The key is to only break out the makeup on rare occasions so it actually makes an impact.. unless you are ugly without it.. then you need it all the time and there is really no hope for you anyway.. infact you should probably just go and get it tatooed on.
5. Attitude is directly proportional to hotness and that is that, if you are ugly or fat and a bitch you are worthless go jump off a bridge. However if you are cool, ugly and give wicked head.. you at least serve a purpose without being annoying. The long and simple, a hot girl who is also cool and in shape are rare but they are out there… and when they do have the bitchy days, the fact that they are usually hot and also attractive helps.
On the subject of less than perfect girls, there is a guy for everybody and tastes are due to many things, not the least of which is what you think you are capable of getting, or how much effort you want to put into getting it. I myself am a boob guy and an ass guy.. and and and…. but it’s not the sizes of things it’s the quality.. small perfect boobs are fantastic, bigger perfect boobs are fantastic, so sizes is an irrelevant factor in boobs.. as far as asses go… I like one that will fit in my hand that is my rule of thumb.
I also want to say.. having you fat hang out of your cloths just sucks ladies.. please don’t do it, nobody wants to see your tummy and fat it just looks fucking stupid and doesn’t work.. this rule applies if your 7 or 47.
I have been lurking this site for a little and thought i should finally post someth
ing. I have learned a bit reading this site and also got some confirmation that some of the ideas i have now are right (why didnt anyone tell me 6 years ago that being cocky and teasing is often a good thing and that things aren’t in real life like they are in movies/books 
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Bigger breasts aren’t always better. I myself would take smaller but perkier over bigger ones any day.
Christine is right that a sexy body is a fit gym body. If any girl wants to lose fat work out and dont starve yourselves awfully and/or throw up everything you eat. The anorexic model body looks like the body of a 12 year old boy. (am I the only one who thinks that models and trannies look much alike?) Weights do not make you look like a bodybuilder and blocky as easily as girls i know seem to think.
Guys will fuck anything and girls who act sleazy are concidered easy so they get more attention in general but less attention from guys who are willing to commit. Girls don’t dress up to impress guys in my opinion though because straight guys couldn’t care less about what brand she is wearing or what kind of handbag she has right?
Aivar the Groupie pontificated
That anonymous was me. I forgot to add my name and email
Christopher the Pyro remarked
Aivar,
I’ve never noticed what brand a woman or a person has of pretty much anything.. so I agree… unless your a queer (or a woman) that shit just isn’t noticed.
Trouble the Pirate hunt n' pecked this
Women don’t buy designer labels to impress GUYS…
Incidentally, one of my favorite ex’s used to pride herself on never wearing more than $50 worth of clothing [shoes included] simultaneously… She’d even go commando to ensure it if necessary… I always found it so cute whenever some other woman was bragging about a Coach handbag or her new Jimmie Choo’s*, she’d hold her purse up and go “oh yeah… Guess how much I paid for this? …five bucks… cool huh?”
She wasn’t cheap, she spent 300 bucks a week on her hair & nails, but she was so full of confidence in that department, it was refreshing. Plus she had great tits…
*I’m not gay… Not that that matters to me…
The producers of this comment would like to state that NO gays were harmed in the making of this comment.
Mara the Peacemaker quibbed this
Great tits…bound to improve any situation
Christine the Lioness spake, and sayeth
Trouble… uh, trust me… NO ONE thinks you’re gay.
That’s an interesting point you made about women not buying designer stuff to impress men– they do it to impress other women. I think you might be on to something there. However, in the past, I have dated a few guys who were very into how they looked and how they were perceived by others and they did notice what designer clothes/sunglasses/bags women were carrying. Those guys also, whenever I would talk about a friend of mine or someone would ask off the bat… “What kind of car does he drive?” And if it wasn’t a BMW 5-series or better, or a Mercedes, or Lexus, they didn’t care about the rest of my story. As a matter of fact… my ex-fiancee, one night when I grabbed him and started pulling at his clothes in what I thought was going to be exciting foreplay, pushed me away and said, “What are you doing??? This is Armani!!!” Needless to say, that was one of many things I decided I couldn’t deal with and after that relationship ended, I went looking for guys who weren’t so caught up in name brands and found them to be much more relaxing to be around.
For me personally, when I buy clothes, I tend to buy whatever I think looks nice whether it be a $300 pair of boots or a $20 pair of sandals at Payless. I take a lot of pride in finding things on sale and not paying full price for stuff, but I also shop for clothes at Wal-Mart. I kind of just like whatever I like and if it looks good and I need a new one of those, I get it without caring what the brand is.
I’ve noticed a lot of times that the women who are set on carrying a Gucci bag, or need to wear clothes with Dole & Gabbana plastered all over them are actually the ones who can’t afford these items. People who need to flaunt how much money they have, typically don’t have much. I love the idea that no one knows how much money I make because I drive a pretty crappy car and walk around in my jeans from American Eagle Outfitters. And honestly, I don’t give a shit about impressing other women– I don’t need to give women I meet a reason to be more catty than they already are (no offense to Meisha with that “catty” reference)… the only ones I care about impressing are men… and now that I’m with Christopher, the only one I put forth effort to impress is him.
Although, it has always been my dream to go to an awards show at some point in a Vera Wang dress. Talk about feeling like a princess for a day… 
Mara the Peacemaker quibbed this
Right on, Christine. That reminds me of girls I knew in college who were buying Coach purses and Louis Vuitton bags and I always wondered “Okay, I know where these girls are from, where they live, etc. How are they affording this stuff?” The answer: the trusty and yet often traitorous credit card. I’ve also noticed that a lot of people who can’t really afford to buy these items rack up debt in order to do it.
Trouble the Pirate quibbed this
Yeah, ‘fashion victims’ come in all genders… I hereby riff stairway to heaven on my world’s tiniest axe for them… I laugh my Hanes crew-length socks off… 
There’s no denying that some designers are very talented, and deserve recognition and extra compensation for their talent, much like certain athletes, actors, writers, surgeons, etc… But as with anything in a capitalist society, it is taken to the absurd extreme… It all screams “Love me, love me… Please!”
I have $20 shoes, and $200 shoes that look the same, and even wear the same, like Christine, I buy what I like, what I want and what I trust… Not what other people say to buy… 
Aivar the Groupie mentioned
What Mara just said proved my point. I don’t think that all women do that but IMO some do.
And the thing i said before sorry if it seemed homophobic in any way.
Can i ask what outfits do you girls and guys concider hot then that aren’t slutty?
Trouble the Pirate mentioned
Mara… Spoken like someone who knows the value of great tits from personal experience…
Situations can further be improved by emailed pictures of said great tits…
The producers of this comment would like to state that NO Louis Vuitton purses, or great tits were harmed in the making of this post.
Christine the Lioness penned this
Oh Aivar… you don’t know homophobic until you’ve read some of the comments from Christopher and Eric, darlin’… nothing you could possibly say here could offend anyone worse than my very own Christopher.
My point was more that if you have a hot body, you’ll look hot in anything. Short skirts and crop tops are fine if you have the body for them, but pairing a skin tight white crop top over a black bra with a super short miniskirt and heels is just too much, too much, too much. I think looking put together (like everything matches) and wearing clothes that flatter your figure is the key. Whether you’re dressing up for a night out, or in career clothes, or just in casual weekend type clothes, anything that hides your flaws well and accentuates your best features will make you look sexy. IMO.
Christopher the Pyro got all philosophical
I do not recommend emailing pictures of great tits.. according to Christine is very bad for a professional environment and productivity.
Christine the Lioness thought this
Oh yeah… I was gonna add… I used to work with this one girl (she was a secretary where I used to work) who was on welfare, had two kids from different dads and was only getting child support from one, was renting her apt. under someone else’s name because she couldn’t get credit, and insisted on carrying a Vuitton purse and wearing Gucci sunglasses. She received financial assistance in every program her kids were involved in, free childcare, $5/month phone service, etc. I disagreed with her attitude about pretty much everything, but that used to really bug the shit out of me. I mean… maybe she needed those things to feel important in some way that I can’t possibly fathom, but if my taxes are paying for your kids’ free lunch at school and I see you walking around with your $400 purse, you better hope I’m having a good day.
Christopher the Pyro quibbed this
Aivar, Christine is right… fags are not welcome here…
Christine the Lioness hunt n' pecked this
Christopher’s trying to get his little jabs in… all I said was… in professional companies, you don’t walk in and see a bunch of naked women as screensavers on peoples’ desks. Christopher, in an attempt to convince me that the company he works for is as professional (or much more professional) than the offices I have worked in, wanted me to believe that the time he and the other guys at his work spend having strippers come in for their birthdays, emailing jokes around the office to each other, and posting pix of porn stars on their computers as screensavers is something every guy does and it does not affect their productivity. He actually started this conversation telling me he tries to set a good example for the other guys in his office. When I pointed out all these things– and how they don’t seem to give off the “hey, i’m setting a good example of how to be professional,” he got irritated. I can tell you that when I was working for the head of Fox Broadcasting Center, he didn’t have time to email jokes around and there were no photos of naked women anywhere in his office. Now… I have seen lingerie calendars hanging on the walls places where I’ve had my car serviced before… but I wouldn’t necessarily describe those places– or the guys who work there– as “professionals.”
j. the Groupie added
Uh, Christine, can you come to Wisconsin and teach this all to a girl who comes to my poker league every Sunday AFTERNOON with her boobs falling out of her shirt? A couple of weeks ago, she had to go change because her nipples were actually outside of her shirt, too…. 
Mara the Peacemaker asserted
Please tell me that the purse and sunglasses were knock offs…
Christopher the Pyro thought this
You would never be able to tell if they were Mara
Christine the Lioness commented
No, Mara, they weren’t. She made a point to let us all know that she would never buy knock offs. Worse part about it (well, maybe not the worst, but bad), she lives in the freaking hood and she and her boyfriend got robbed at gunpoint and the purse got stolen. She promptly went out and bought another one as soon as she could. Aye-yi-yi.
Christopher the Pyro uttered
So.. people who usually buy knock-offs usually brag about buying knockoffs… oh I forgot your the expert on knockoffs… 
Christine the Lioness added
j…. I guess she thought it was going to be a different kind of poker game and was prepared to lose… hehe.
Aivar the Groupie uttered
400$ purse 300$ shoes thats like more than the minimum wage here and the average salary here is 870$(thats without taking the taxes off) and the average wage is that high because of some people who earn a lot and a big majority earns a lot less. NO I’M NOT FROM KAZAKHSTAN or some 3rd world country .
How can people like that have children… well there are far far far worse parents but still. I lost all hope in humanity ages ago so its not surprising that there are people like that.
Please dont call me darling im a big grown wise man (1 and it makes me feel like im a little kid…!
Christine the Lioness chimed in with
I call everyone darlin’ so you’ll have to get used to it. And if you’re big and grown and wise, I’m sure you’re secure enough to handle it. 
Christine the Lioness added
No, Christopher, I’m not an expert on knock-offs… I’ve actually never bought a knock-off because I don’t give a shit about having name brand stuff. But women like the one I was referring to… who find it very very important to have that stuff… definitely go to Nordstrom’s and pay full price for it. It’s part of the “look at how important I am and how well I should be treated because I just dropped an ungodly amount of money at your store.” That sort of sense of entitlement and desire for VIP treatment goes along with that attitude.
Trouble the Pirate up'n wrote this
Mara does not take my bait… Damn!
Aivar… 1 ‘darling’ from Christine is worth 2 from a regular chick… There are 1258 worse things she could call us… Oh, and normally we WOULD know where you’re from ’cause Chris had these little flags that were in the comments, they were more frequently WRONG than RIGHT… But then I went and asked for a pirate flag, and he probably frigged it all up trying to get me one…
J. I feel your pain… Where exactly is this poker game then?
Christine… Great subject… What a can ‘o worms… 
j. the Groupie commented
Trouble…trust me, these weren’t the “great tits” that you were talking about in your previous comment. Sort of, uh, lopsided. And over-used. Plus, I don’t need you coming to games and encouraging her.
Christine the Lioness remarked
Mara doesn’t strike me as the type of girl who would take your bait, Trouble, and no offense, but I have to say… I expected better bait from you… more cloaked in a sophisticated deception that plays on uniquely feminine insecurities… I think you’ve been hanging out with Prophet Joe too long. Did I say that out loud?
And yes, my “darlin’s” are worth double– so either that means you get more out of ‘em, or they annoy you twice as fast. Either way, it’s fine with me.
And omg… no you didn’t just bring up the flags, Trouble… seriously, there are some things better left alone… like sleeping pit bulls and guys with sores on their dicks… AND the flag issue with Christopher. As he sat for hours at the computer the other night, neglecting me totally, all I heard was a few mutters here and there under his breath… something about “Trouble’s fucking pirate flag…” and “Let’s just bomb the Cayman Islands and be done with it…”
I’m also interested in knowing where j. comes from. I checked her blog, but it didn’t say… or at least I didn’t see it. And the lop-sided thing explains why only one nipple fell out… it’s probably hard to keep track when they’re going all different directions and such.
Christopher the Pyro pontificated
Trouble.. seriously.. can’t believe you brought that shit up dog.
Christine the Lioness asserted
See… told ya.
j. the Groupie penned this
From Wisconsin…which may explain the boob-flashing. We have to keep them under sweaters so much of the time, maybe it’s understandable for a girl to get all excited when there are 2 consecutive days of warm weather.
j. the Groupie scribbled
Madison, to be exact.
Trouble the Pirate got all philosophical
Hey j.! Lopsided tits need love too…
Christine, sometimes a guy just has to lay his cards on the table… I wasn’t serious… I’m well aware that Mara has better things to do than email me naughty pictures of herself… Next thing you know we’d be having an illicit internet affair which would only lead to us lying on a pristine beach, making love in the moonlight, as warm waves cradle our naked bodies…
Chris… Sorry about bringing up the flag shit bro… Savor this moment… I rarely apologize for anything…
Mara the Peacemaker up'n wrote this
I see what happens when I go away…you guys get into all sorts of trouble…flashing tits, lopsided tits, pirate flags, more tits…
Christine — your former co-worker or whoever is just an idiot. But I know women who do it too. That’s like people who live in the hood but drive a fucking $70,000 car. I’m like “WHAT ARE YOU DOING???”
Christopher — savor the moment.
Trouble — “…as warm waves cradle our naked bodies…” I think you missed your calling as a trashy romance novelist. Undiscovered talents?
Christopher the Pyro got all philosophical
I’m savoring and savoring while I cook up something cool for the blog. Not the pirate flags this week.. but eventually.. and yes Mara you cannot leave us alone we will get ourselves into all kinds of trouble without supervision.
Mara the Peacemaker uttered
I just felt left out, Christopher
kyle the Groupie mentioned
back to the ass conversation… seriously a chick with thin legs and firm ass is way better than any thing that when you slap one side it jiggles all the way to the other and then back again… Being in shape is not only sexy but also a great way to bond. the vast majority of people would rather go for a long walk or nice bike ride with their mate then share a gallon of ice cream while watching “the biggest loser” and wondering why they arnt losing any weight themselves.
Christine the Lioness mentioned
Everything always comes back to the ass conversation, doesn’t it?
Trouble the Pirate stated
You say it like it’s a BAD thing?
Christine the Lioness got all philosophical
LOL.
anayat the Virgin scribbled
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anayat the Virgin chimed in with
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truong minh thanh the Virgin pontificated
V-N???????? O.K
truong minh thanh the Virgin stated
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….O.K
sexes
Lisa the Virgin uttered
Great article but unfortunately, the majority guys in my hometown of Atlanta, GA, especially those in their teens, 20s, and early 30s, often confuse sexy with being sleazy because they are often narrow-minded, knowing that Georgia is an ultra-conservative, backward, Christian society. If you go to other progressive cities here in North America, there is a big difference between sexy and sleazy, like in San Francisco or Miami, for example. It all depends on the environment that you live in.
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