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Ben2 the Soldier (56) Haas the Addict thought this
Agree with u on most counts but coudnt it be just possible that during all the sugar daddy and sugar babe stuff they actually fell in love with each other(not to sound like a plot for a new J Lo movie) 
aJ the Zen Master spake, and sayeth
Ugh.. That is very sick.. The entire concept of sugar daddy and babe..
Love is not something which can be bought no matter how much! >
Keith the Director up'n wrote this
I could defintely see j-lo actingtis one out. She fits the bill. Also christine I agree and disagree with you on some counts as far as the gay mariage thing goes. As a religious person and a god fearing man I do not see where gay marriage is mentioned in the bible, and in fact is prohibited in it. Unfortunately as the sign of the times for some reason or another thngs have changed. Which is fine. I don’t actually hate gay people, butthe flamers need to tone it down. I don’t know how you can consider yourself a man when you prance around talking and dressing like a woman. Flare bell bottom jeans and pants do not look good on men. Nor do skin tight shirts. I have underarmor shirts i admit, for sport specfic occasions and i do not where them without a jersey over top as they were inteded. Unlike these kid sI see in the mall wearing just them. Looks pathetic especially when they are skinny =)) Anyway I’m off point. There are 2 states I believe now where gay marriage is allowed. If you truely need to have the lable move there and get married by all means but don’t makea fucking spectacle of it. They have already turned San Fran into a laughing stock. It’s the first thing people think of beside barry bonds steroid using ass when people say san francisco. If you refuse to be married wheer alloed then live peacefully and happysomewhere else ust living together without haveing to be labled married. You go out and by each other rings and shit and no one has to know. Isn’t the whole point for them to be happy together? Thats not good enough? they want the enitre world to know they are married…you know what i could give 2 shits…if they are officiallymarried or not. It only seems to matter to them. If you want to sacrifice money and time to fight it instead of just being happy being together you are getting married for the wrong reasons!
Christine the Lioness hunt n' pecked this
Okay… even though the post was about Sugar Daddies, we often go off in other directions, so I’ll enter into this little debate about gay marriage with Keith…
Let me figure out first where you’re coming from. You believe the Bible, but the Bible says being gay is wrong. However, you don’t believe it’s wrong. You just don’t want to be exposed to it. So basically you’re saying that you don’t mind if people are gay and get married, as long as they don’t make it very public. I don’t understand. Either its acceptable to get married, with which it would also be acceptable to show the world that you are. Or it’s not acceptable and if so, it shouldn’t happen at all. There are contradictions there that I’m not getting.
You said that its not good enough for them to be together and just be happy, but you’re annoyed they want to show the whole world. Then you said you don’t give 2 shits if they’re officially married or not. Well… it sounds like you do. If you really didn’t care, it wouldn’t matter to you at all if they were wearing signs around their necks annoucning their wedding date. But it seems to bother you… so you obviously care. Besides… you wouldn’t expect a heterosexual couple to get married and then not make it obvious. If you saw a man/woman couple who got married but then didn’t want anyone to know, you’d probably think there was something wierd about their marriage. Why should you expect gays to keep it under wraps?
I think its natural when people love each other that they want other people to know it and know how happy they are… that’s why they have weddings to begin with, to show the world their commitment to their wife/husband and have everyone celebrate it with them. There’s enough bad shit in the world… why would we stomp someone down for being happy about their relationship? Good for them. And too bad there aren’t more people who are as happy as they are.
At least that’s my take on your comment… unless I’m reading it wrong… in which I invite you clarify. 
Christine the Lioness said this
Haas… you brought up a good point. Maybe they did fall in love with each other. And if they did, then good for them. But I think people who engage in that type of stuff to begin with probably fell more in love in what the other person does for them, than the other person him/herself. At least that’s what I think…
You never know what will happen in life. I could get married and the next day, my husband could get in a car accident and be in a wheel chair forever. Would I leave? No. That’s what I signed on for… that risk… once I decided to get married. And you should make that decision because you love that person no matter what happens. I think in cases where people are looking for money or just a trophy… I doubt that commitment would be there if things went south for any reason. But that’s just a prediction… maybe they’re as committed as anyone would ever be.
Keith the Director said this
It’s iroinc that you brought up the statement if a heterosexual couple got married and didn’t want people to know it it would be weird…when in fact a co-worker of mine went to las vegas last weekend for a nascar race, and while there got married to her fiance’ yet didn’t mention it to anyone except one person who wound up telling me b/c the 3 of us work so closely together on a couple cases. Weird no, they just want to keep private I suppose. Nothing wrong with it! maybe I did contradict myself in a way, but I was just ranting. So to clarify my view. 1. As far as homosexuals go I don’t like it, but I have to accept it..to a degree. I see no harm in them being together if thats what ameks them happy, but I refuse to allow them or accept them to have children. Why? 1. it’s impossible for homosexuals to procreate. Procreation is a natural process which if cannot be completed naturally b/w to lovers then should not exist. 2. It fucks up the kid. Homesexuality is a nurtured effect. You aren’t born gay. So this kid is going to be at school, and kids will be well my mom and dad are taking me disney world this summer. When the kid looks at him and says whats a mom? I have 2 fathers or vice versa. Now the kid needs medicated b/c he doesn’t know what the hell is going on. Plus the kid is exposed to only that type of relationship for all the important years of his/her life they will think its normal or know no different. So in conclusion of my points let the gays have what they want b/c in actuality once it becomes accepted for them to be married they can post their little picture in the paper with all the other announcements and their weddings can go on just like anyone else instead of the entire world finding out each time gays get married by having it plastered on cnn. but it should be forbidden for them to have children!
Christine the Lioness got all philosophical
Hrmmm… so it’s okay to be gay, but their kids will be fucked up…? I don’t get it. If it’s okay, it’s okay. Period. If it’s fucked up, it’s fucked up. It’s not okay for one and fucked up for another.
I am friends with a lesbian couple who have a kid. I can assure you that the “mothers” will explain to the kid that most children have a daddy and a mommy. But some children have 2 daddies, and some have 2 mommies instead. I think that would successfully pre-empt the bewilderment of a child when she finds out other kids are going to Disneyland with heterosexual parents. It’s not really that difficult of a thing to explain.
Personally, I’d rather see a child grow up in a loving home with two gay parents than in a straight home with two abusive parents, or parents who are too wrapped up in their own lives to give a shit about their kid. Any heterosexual couple can procreate (for the most part)… and many of them do even when they’re 17 years old and not in anyway ready to be parents. But a gay couple has to go through so much to adopt a kid, or go through the process of a surrogate or artificial insemination. All three of those processes are expensive, time-consuming, and difficult. I tend to think that anyone who’s willing to go through that really, really wants to be a parent or it simply wouldn’t be worth it. I think people who want to be parents more than anything also tend to be much better parents than those who accidentally got pregnant and decided to keep a kid.
I also disagree with your statement that being gay is nurtured. How do you know that it’s not genetic? The last I heard, there wasn’t conclusive evidence one way or another. Since there’s no evidence, I speculate that being gay is nature, not nurture. For two reasons… 1. If people wanted to be considered outsiders by a significant portion of society, then why do so many of them hide it and never come out of the closet? I would think those people would, instead of agonizing over being gay, just be straight instead. 2. I think it is wired in us to be attracted to the opposite sex… I think it’s a biological thing that was put in us to ensure survival of the species. The drive for sex ultimately leads to pregnancy, and pregnancy leads to longevity of the species. So for someone to not be attracted to the entire opposite sex tells me that there is a biological component that is different in him/her than in most people.
At least in my humble opinion.
eric the Lil' Devil asserted
ok, there are shitty parents of all sexes. the reason i have no kids is due to the fact,i know that i am selfish and immature, therefore would not be a good role model let alone parent. so by that realization any child would be better off with 2 parents, regardless of sexual orientation; that are loving and supportive, rather than a conventional man and woman who argue and allow the tv and video games raise them. it’s a matter of who are the better parents not better fit for society, that being said, just know i can’t stand fags and will never believe the fact that it is a genetic thing “disorder?” if you are male and want 2 suck dick try this to cure the urge. open wide and put a pistol in your mouth and give it oral until it finishes in your mouth! fucking fags? [-(
Christine the Lioness added
OMG… Eric… you almost had me… for a second I thought you were super insightful and stuff… 
Then I kept reading…
Actually, Eric’s first half of his comment puts it pretty eloquently. And hooray for Eric for realizing he’s a selfish asshole who should not be raising children. I wish more selfish assholes were like him. Unfortunately, plenty of them still haven’t realized that they should under no circumstances be raising kids and end up fucking up their childrens’ lives in addition to their own.
Keith the Director spake, and sayeth
Ok fine I have obviuously entered a relm which i desire to be out of…you make good points and maybe your friends will raise the child effectively. However you views on the matter differ from mine. And although i would penultimately like to see what is beneficial for the child. 2 parents regardless of race gender etc. blah blah if they can do it right then do it. B/c I know i see it ever day with moronic heterosexual parents who cant do it right. I just feel that i would much rather them not. It’s my feeling and I’m sticking to it. But liek I said whatever is best for the child. B/c right now like eric said tv and video games are raising todays youth…and doing a very bad job at it! Oh and christine eric is very insightful you just need to understand his logic.
Christopher the Pyro pontificated
lol,
I can’t imagine children with gay parents are well adjusted on any level. That is probably about the same as having a parent who beats the shit out of you, molests you.. and countless other things that cause kids to be fucked up.. it’s just ignorant to think a child being exposed to an obvious unnatural state are not being damaged.. that being said.. why would I give a fuck? There are kids being damaged on all kinds of levels everyday infact we do our best to damage the maximum number of kids with this blog everyday.. right Christine? lol.. on the serious side.. kids with gay parents are not as well off as a child will two normal loving parents.. but on the flip side they probably arn’t in as bad of a situation as a child with only one parent or abusive parents.. so I guess it’s all relative.
Christine the Lioness commented
I still haven’t heard a good reason why a gay couple wouldn’t be good parents because they’re gay… just a lot of speculaton without much to back it up. I’m not sure how having gay parents would be close to anything like having parents that beat or molest you… are you suggesting that being around two men is like being abused? Well… wait a sec… living with two men… abuse… hrmm… two is twice as bad as living with one… hrmmm… the toilet seat would be permanently up… hrmmm…. yeah, I see what Christopher means.
Christopher the Pyro asserted
I’m suggesting being around Gay people will mess a child up just like being around abusive parents or parents who do drugs, ect, ect. There is not data on this because until about 5 or 6 years ago the idea of letting two Gay people raise children was by common sense not the best idea in the world. Anytime children are put in situations that they are strange, or they are going to be spend their life being embarrased by their parents, ect, ect it just warps them. Data or not, I don’t think this is a hard conclusion to draw. Also being around two Gay men is nothing like being around two “men” it’s like being around two men who one usually acts like a woman.. or both act like woman, or or or or.. the point is.. it’s nothing like being around normal people by definition they are abnormal.
Christine the Lioness mentioned
By all standards, Christopher… you’re abnormal too. Besides… living with two gay men might be kind of fun… gay men don’t act like women. They act like gay men.
And truth be told… all children reach an age where they are “embarrassed” by their parents. The only way people feel “embarrassed” is if they feel they or someone close to them has done something wrong. I’m guessing a child who grows up being taught the tolerance for gays that a gay couple would instill in their child probably wouldn’t see their parents’ lifestyle as “wrong” on any level. Maybe they’d be worried about what other people think… but hell… I used to worry what other people thought about my parents too. I mean… a kid can be embarrassed because her parents are overweight, or dress poorly, or have a scar, or a wandering eye, or drives a junkie car, or is going bald… there are a million things… I hardly think that damages a child the way being abused or cared for by a drug addict would. Come on… pleeeeeeaze….
Keith the Director commented
what does being tolerate of gays have to do with anything about raising a child in the best environment. All kids are embarssed by their parents at any one point in their lives it’s called teenagers! But before and after those teen years we never gave a shit what ppl thought about our parents b/c we love them. It just that with a couple gay men or woman trying to raise the kid it’s going to give that kid more issues to deal with in his/her teen years than those raised by staright parents. Also how can gay men relate and help to nurture a female. What happenes when nature strikes at 12 and the girl is sent to a panic and doesn’t know what happened. A male cannot say it’s ok honey i can relate…b/c he can’t and never experienced it. Thats where the female mom needs to be in place for. Then what about when little johhny first gets wood and asks gay mom 1 and 2 for info. You can’t ask a person who has penis envy a question like that let a lone a gay woman. They haven’t a clue about shit in the male for b/c they have chose to forghet we exist except when they need a job or something done they don’t know anything about. Kids have a better shot at not being mentally scarred when you can ask the impportant questions to the appropriate sex.
Keith the Director got all philosophical
Also most parents would try to raise their kids to be tolerant of gays, blacks, whites or other foreigners. Basically people differnet from them… 
unfortunately low income blacks are raised to hate white people b/c it’s our fault they are poor and it’s b/c whites took slaves 700 years ago. But thats another post all together) but as the kid grows an matures events will unfold and they will take their own personal stance for or against people different from them. My parents raised me to be open minded and treat every one equally. Now between my parents and church i did this for the first 14 years of my life then like I said events unfolded and altered my opinion of some peoples.
Christine the Lioness commented
Dude… that’s a terrible argument. Do you know how many kids are living with a single parent? There are plenty of little boys who don’t have dad around to explain the wet dream. And there are little girls out there whose moms died or have left and are being raised by their dads. I’m guessing in that situation the gay parents would either have a relative talk to the kid if they really felt that their inabilty to relate would interfere, or they would talk to one of their friends of the opposite sex and ask what to say… or ask what their mom/dad told them….or ask their own mom/dad what she/he told their brother or sister when it happened. I mean granted… in a perfect world, all children would have two loving parents… one male and one female. I think both are important in order for a child to truly learn how to bond with the opposite sex when she/he gets older and how to act in their own gender by the role modeling of the other. But this world is far from perfect and having worked with kids myself and seeing how many shit-awful parents exist… I think the best we can hope for is for a kid to have two parents that truly want her/him and love her/him, and are dedicated to giving that kid every advantage they can… whether they are both male or both female. I think assuming the kid will be emotionally scarred because he/she had two dads or two moms is like saying kids with only a single parent are emotionally scarred. In my opinion, kids with two gay parents are probably better off than the ones that have only one mom or dad.
Keith the Director stated
Yes as in fact i know a couple a single parents and kids who come from single parents. It is awful, and I never really took that into consideration in my post b/c we were talking about couples. Single parenting is a different topic altogether. It is a tough job, but in fact there is still a chance that said individual will eventually get together with another person and that other person may have the chance to help guide them. As well maybe the single parent would ask an uncle or aunt brother or sister or maybe even her own parent of the oppsoite sex to talk to their kid if they are still single at that age. Options are open.
eric the Lil' Devil thought this
ok now i have to chime in, i have a relative that is a gay parent and she is an awesome mother. she also makes ridiculous bank as well as spends alot of time with her child. i was raised by a single mother for most of my life with no old man to even visit so i know both ends of this spectrum, single mothers are for the most part impressive if they conduct theirselves with the child in mind, but we’ve all seen whores that do the job inadequately and their kids end up troubled. i can’t see how the peception of others could outweigh the love that two healthy parents could give. granted the jokes and ribbing will come, but if the upbrimgimg is structured to withstand prejudice and ignorance, all the while instilling values of a how a regular “lifestyle” is maintained in society’s eyes then it would be ok. but the gays who want to shelter the kids into thinking that the alternate lifestyle is tottaly accepted in america’s eyes is wrong that others grind them up is being alittle dense as well. we have to show prejudice to kids as examples of what to expect, like it or not its here for the long haul until we start spading rednecks and crack whores
eric the Lil' Devil asserted
by the way that goes towards only the dykes! 2 fags should leave the kids alone [-(
Keith the Director said this
Very valid point eric. He has just given us a fact to see that it’s not impossible for a single mother to not do a good job. In fact I never said they couldn’t we were just all up on the negatives I didn’t express the positives. Thanx eric for showing us the other side of the coin. Let me also say some of the single parent families I encounter are actually getting it done. From both sides male and female. I also agree that homosexual women could possibly do a fine job raising a child as woman have more of a nurturing role. they could also blow it altogether. I still feel like eric said and I quote, “2 fags should leave kids alone”
Keith the Director uttered
Christine how can you say gay men don’t act like women they act like gay men? I’m confused b/c when I see gay men I see women. They dress like women wearing the tight pants and tight shirts, they also talk like women and sound like women. I call them like I see them! If it looks and acts like a woman….which must explain why they like the dick!
Christine the Lioness penned this
Thanks, Eric for finally seeing the logical side to this. And just for the record, I wasn’t saying all single parents do a bad job. I also know of a couple of single parents who are raising their kids way better than a few married people I know. So that basically proves my point… it doesn’t really matter if you’re gay, straight, a single parent, a hetero couple, a homo couple, or whatever. None of that matters at all. What does matter is that the person/people involved love the kids and are truly dedicated to being good parents. And being a good parent (if you’re gay) does include explaining to your kid that your lifestyle is alternative to the norm so the kid can in some ways be prepared for what less tolerant people might say. But if you’re single, being a good parent also means not bashing on the kid’s other parent to the child so he/she grows up hating mom or dad because dad or mom can’t stand the other one. With each situation, comes different issues to handle and overcome.
Now… about gay men being women. I can see how a straight guy might think they’re alike, but I can tell you (being one of the groups represented in this scenario) that gay men are similar to straight women in some ways… but they still retain a lot of the qualities that straight men possess. Men and women inherently view the world and relationships differently and gay men still see the world like men see it. There are lots of examples of this (and I’ve known a lot of gay men in my life– I’m in the film industry so you can imagine), but I’ll give you just one example to support my argument. I think it is in men’s nature to not want to settle down with one woman. It’s in men’s nature to want to sleep with as many women as they can and that’s why most straight men do sleep with a large number of women (unless they’re tempered by some outside force like religion, or marriage, etc.) and don’t necessarily go around looking for Mrs. Right. Women on the other hand, it’s in their nature to want to find a man to be in a relationship with and have the security, monogamy, etc. that a relationship provides. That is what I have garnered from my experiences. Gay men tend to be more like men on this. Even my gay friends joke about how gay men are the biggest sluts on the planet. Sure, some do find relationships– real loving ones– and settle down, but many of the gay guys I know are perfectly happy banging a different guy every night and many go through more boyfriends in a month than I’ve had in my lifetime. So that’s just one example, but there are others. Sure we may like the same movies, and clothes, and use feminine gestures, etc. but they really aren’t like women on less superficial levels.
Christopher the Pyro got all philosophical
My point was not to say Gay parents could not raise a child, my point was it is just not plausable that a child raised by two good Gay parents is as well off, normal or as well served as a child raised by two normal parents. Gay men are like women, women don’t think so becuase they don’t think there is anything wrong with being like a women so they don’t notice that gay men are like women but generally they lack a remarkable number of male qualities. Christine I’m sorry but your argument is confusing me basically your saying the ONLY quality that Gay men have that actually makes them like men is that they are Sluts and this makes them good role models.. I see.. hrmm… isn’t that why it is good ot hve normal parents.. one slutty male.. and one non-slutty female.. so the child grows up normal.. and not an ultra slut?
Christine the Lioness spake, and sayeth
Not at all… re-read my comment. I was saying that I was giving one example (instead of listing as many qualities as I could think of) of how gay men and straight men are more alike than gay men and women. And I wasn’t at all suggesting that that particular quality makes them good parents. You’re really twisting my words on this one, Christopher.
And it is very much oversimplifying things to suggest that a child will grow up to be exactly like his/her parents. Parents also teach their kids based on their own mistakes and what they learned from life, hoping their kids won’t make the same ones.
And if you read what everyone else is saying… there is no basis to say that “it is not plausable that a child raised by two good Gay parents is as well off, normal or as well served as a child raised by two normal parents.” Everyone seems to have experience with examples that prove the opposite. I guarantee that my gay friends’ daughter is much better parented than some of the other kids I know from hetero couple families. Period. You’re just making a generalization based on nothing… and living examples are proving that that simply is not true.
Of course I notice that gay men are like women! I’m not stupid! Are you serious???? But the qualities you’re noticing that are feminine are outward qualities– walking a certain way, dressing a certain way, talking a certain way. I was referring to the more inherent differences between the genders… but since you don’t actually know any gay men, you see only what’s on the surface, and then think you know everything about them. If you really have a heart-to-heart with a gay guy, you’ll see they don’t think like women or make decisions the way women do, and any of that kind of stuff. In those particular ways… they are still men. And for those who believe that being gay is nurture instead of nature, then it would make sense as well. You obviously can’t change an inherently male mind into a female mind simply because you want to “act” like a female. You are still starting with a male mind and the way a male mind operates at the core.
Christopher the Pyro got all philosophical
Your not reading my comments either.. in a perfect situation normal good parents would have to be more healthy for a child then gay good parents.. it’s like eating organic food or non-organic food.. healthy food is good either way but organic healthy food is mostly likely healthier the non-organnic healthier food there is not a great stretch of logic here.. and I assure you more often then that the gay dudes I know are not anything like regular guys at the core.. so I don’t think they do as good a job being a male role model as a normal male. This isn’t to say gay parents are wrong just not as good as regular good parents…. but good gay parents are still better then bad normal parents.
Keith the Director commented
Nice points chris, and I’m in complete agreemnet with you. I can honestly say good gay parents would make better parenst than lousy heterosexual ones. It’s the benfit for the child, but I sure as hell don’t see how two gay men can raise a non-effemanite straight boy into a mascuine man. It’s not going to be plausible. they will never see a masculine male dominate figure on a daily basis to know thats how to act. he is going to be dressed in his fathers image talk like they do, and wal like they do…why? B/c that’s who is teaching him. You can learn a foreign language and adopt their customs by living someone for a few months.What happens when this is all you know? If two gay men feel the need to raise a child, and they are unfortunately lucky enough to be allowed. Please god let it be a female so it grows up somewhat normal instead of subjecting some poor unlucky boy to the ridicule he will defintely receive in school.
Keith the Director penned this
i can’t help but feel responsible forthe tur this post has taken and how off track it has gotten from it’s intentions! 
Christine the Lioness added
So Christopher is just reiterating what everyone has already basically agreed on. I thought you were you were bringing something new to the argument. It’s all good… >-
Christopher the Pyro remarked
This really isn’t that strange.. infact usually posts end up far from where they started.
Christine the Lioness said this
Yeah… exactly. However, if anyone would like to comment on the original premise of the post, I’d be happy to entertain that discussion.
Lei the Mercenary asserted
IMHO marriage should definitely be based on love. now, if a woman thinks love is not enough to make it work and last, then she should find herself a man who is wealthy enough for her. and if she finds it in her heart to love him enough to marry him, then why not? but of course, what is the probability of finding a cool, rich guy who will love u as much as u love him and end up in marriage and live happily ever after? very slim, right? as for me, i’d choose love over anything else. if my man happens to be affluent, then i’d consider it a bonus.
Christine the Lioness asserted
I agree. But I also think people tend to go for people who have the same perspective on money as they do. If you don’t think money is important and want to be a free spirit bouncing from job to job just to enjoy life, that fundamental way of living sort of conflicts with someone who values working really hard, having financial security, buying a house, etc. Then, if the money ever goes away for any reason, you still have the same values and that’s a core for the relationship… not the money itself, but how you allow money and the importance of it into your life. There probably are cool rich guys out there… but for me, an ultra-rich guy could cause the same problems as an ultra-poor guy. I am most comfortable with a guy who doesn’t feel the need to buy me everything because I’m poor compared to him, or one that can never afford anything nice because I’m wealthier. I like being around men who are pretty much in the same tax bracket as me… we ususally have similar views on money and money tends to be most irrelevant in playing a part in our relationship.
Lei the Mercenary chimed in with
Yes, it’s basically a person’s perspective/attitude towards having money or the lack of it, which is also important in a relationship. It’s nice to be with someone who you are comfortable with fnancially– meaning, money is not an issue for both of you, regardless of who is wealthier or poorer. I certainly appreciate men who work hard and value financial security as much as I do. I am independent and I take pride in having hard-earned money for myself, but at times, it just feels good to have your man freely spends money on you not to bribe or earn sexual favors but just to show he loves or appreciates you. While I wanted to be as financially independent as possible, I don’t find it an insult either when a man lavishes me with things his money can buy. But if I can help it, I don’t encourage extravagance in our relationship. I can be happy with simple things money can’t buy.
Christine the Lioness up'n wrote this
Considering I have yet to find a man who “lavishes” me with things… I really have no idea how to relate to what you just said. j/k… My experience has been that the guys I’ve dated who have been wealthy also have such a chip on their shoulder about “showing it off,” they’re actually about as deep as puddles when you start to really get to know them. They tend to like to point out how much things cost and ask questions like “What kind of car does your boss drive?” and shit like that. Like I said before… if I find a $300 pair of shoes that I love, I’ll probably buy them. If I’m at Target and see a $20 pair that I love, I’ll buy those… and I won’t be embarrassed to tell whomever asks that they’re from Target. I agree it’s nice when a guy buys you things… earning money isn’t easy and I think it’s sweet when someone is willing to put time into working so they can afford to buy something for you. But for example… like with Christopher… the boy gives seriously the best gifts… but my two favorite things he’s ever given me weren’t anything he bought. They were crafts he made at camp… LOL! Just kidding! Seriously though… they weren’t crafts… but they weren’t bought either.
I personally don’t understand how these sugar babies can have a good self-esteem. A lot of my confidence comes from knowing that I am successful because of what I’ve done… not because anyone helped me or bought me things. I value what I have because I earned it. Sure, it would be great to have a boyfriend or a husband who could “have your back” financially if you ever came into tough times… but that’s just the thing… it’s nice to know its there… and even nicer to never have to take him up on it.
Lei the Mercenary asserted
Same here, Christine. Well said, and I agree.
Crafts? Hehe,I remember that one from Katie’s comment, wasn’t it? And where’s Katie by the way…
Christopher the Pyro chimed in with
I actually have NO idea what she is talking about.. but hey it’s all good. Katie seems to have officially retired after her posting her 100th comment on our site.
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