Christopher the Pyro remarked
This conundrum I pointed out to her when we first meant.. that she could never be rich, happy or a winner.. otherwise she would need to be a Republican.. it’s the age old path of life, people become more conservative as they age and grow wiser, their silly 17 year old thinking is replaced with the wisdom of life and with that comes happiness and conservatism… I’m not talking about bible thumping conservatism, but basic.. things.. like we should ahve a military that kicks the rest of the world’s ass by lunch in a war, we should save money for a rainy day instead of spending money on welfair and pointless social agenda’s that don’t work, that the goverment can’t fix all problems and generally speaking it’s ok to have shit and not feel guilty about it. Incase your wondering what happens to people who never mature past their 17 year old thinking.. think Susan Surandan or the Baldwin Brothers, they just end up being old, liberal and laughed at.
Christine the Lioness quibbed this
Where the hell did Christopher learn a word like “conundrum? “/ 
Christopher the Pyro mentioned
The ring..?
eric the Lil' Devil got all philosophical
simply put, this struggle wil never end due to the fact that from birth were told and taught to fix mistakes instead of just not making them. whether its our up bringing or just an attitude of hey that fire looks hot but let me touch it to make sure.what I’m saying is usually we or at least I have to fuck up alot just to reach a comfotable situation for some its coservatism for others its a drunken stupor
Christine the Lioness thought this
I got the part about being taught to fix mistakes instead of not making them… although I think that sort of depends on the mistake, you know? It’s one thing to let your kid leave her shoes outside in the rain and then realize the next morning when she has to wear the shoes she doesn’t like that she should have been responsible enough to bring the good ones in… it’s another thing to let your kid drop out of high school and learn the hard way that life is much easier with a high school diploma. I believe in that saying, “Everyone makes mistakes… but it’s the ones who learn from their mistakes that are set apart from everyone else.” I’m not sure how you’re connecting conservatism to fucking up alot… but I will say that Christopher is conservative and he tends to fuck up a lot… that’s probably what you were trying to convey, wasn’t it? 
eric the Lil' Devil penned this
ya know i’ve known christopher for the better part of two decades most of his fuck ups are minor, no, my point was that these people weren’t made this way in a day it was a learned behavior so i guess blame their parents?
Christine the Lioness hunt n' pecked this
Eric! We need to find you a sense of humor… lucky for you, I’m actually selling some, so if you’d like to send three low installments of only $49.99, I’d be happy to send you one.
As Christopher would say (and I hate to sound anything like him ;-)), blaming your parents instead of being accountable yourself is very “liberal” of you. I agree that to some degree parents are responsible for the behavior of their progeny, because you can’t expect a child to value certain things like education and honesty when parents don’t instill those values (along with many others)… but at some point too… people are simply responsible for themselves. No one had a “perfect” upbringing. Everyone’s parents made mistakes. Everyone had shit to deal with that other people were lucky enough not to– even though they had some other type of shit. The point is… blaming someone else gives people license to continue fucking up. Once you start putting the owness on yourself, and fucking up becomes your own fault, you’ve suddenly made the decision to take control of your own actions… and doing things that aren’t fuck ups becomes much more enticing. 
eric the Lil' Devil up'n wrote this
oh sweetheart believe me i’m the blame of all my problems iwasn’t reffering to myself
Christopher the Pyro mentioned
lol, I can second that.. Eric is most definintly the reason for most of his problems… he’s could also be implicated in many of my problems 
Christine the Lioness quibbed this
Perhaps, Christopher… but how do you account for the other 99%? 
eric the Lil' Devil hunt n' pecked this
hey i’d like to point out that i’ve also gotten chris out of enough trouble but yeah 99% still remained?
Christine the Lioness penned this
LOL! b-(
Christine 2 the Mercenary thought this
“in an attempt for the government to squash social ills and then become sorely disappointed when the government fails. So then we create social programs to do what the government couldn?t do? and while some work, many don?t?”
I just want to add something that is important to remember about being proactive in a socially conscious way, while still being happy. The important part about social programs, are the people that do the dirty work, in essence, the people that care. For example, I volunteer through several animal rescues, and one specifically concentrates on rescuing animals literally only a few hours before they are scheduled to be put down. Many people may say (almost sounding like me
) that there are more important things to worry about, however people that want to help DO, and they have the option to choose what they want to help with. The people involved in these programs learn the simple hard fact pretty soon: YOU CAN’T FIX IT COMPLETELY. It’s nice to aim for that, but it’s important to stay positive about the things you have accomplished, while not letting the immensity of the situation discourage you from wanting to help. The attitude “Oh well, there’s still going to be homeless people no matter what we do” doesn’t help anyone. We know that we can’t save every animal, and we see many perfectly adoptable pets get put to sleep because of the overpopulation crisis. However, getting depressed about this to the point where you feel what you are doing isn’t enough sets things in a backwards motion. So before I get off on a ramble, let me just say that maybe unhappiness stems from only desiring unattainable goals. If you want to fix a social problem, you have to work in baby steps, but each step really does count. The problem will probably still be there, but if you have lessened it at all, you should consider that a victory. There will never be a society without fault, and America is far from utopian status, but the “depressed liberals” should concentrate on small victories, rather than frowning at not making the problem go away. As I am neither republican, nor democrat, I think it’s kind of hard to view this on such a black and white scale. There are so many other factors that enter into people’s lives that most likely weren’t accounted for. But…that’s another discussion.
On another note, could this maybe explain the term “bleeding heart liberal”?